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Clarke born in Pendeford, Wolverhampton
« on: Tuesday 30 June 09 12:16 UTC (UK) »

Hi All

I would be grateful if any of you could help me with the following:-

1891 census

140 Wood Street, Heath Town, Wolverhampton

Thomas Clarke 52 Builder born in Pendeford
Amelia J Clarke 37 born in Leominster, Hereford
Amelia J Clarke 13  ditto
William Clarke 11 born in Wolverhampton
Caroline Clarke 8 ditto
Elizabeth Clarke 3 ditto
Thomas Clarke 2 ditto

I have found a birth for a Eliza Caroline Clarke in o/n/d 1882, so I think that this may be her, I have a death for Amelia J Clarke (mother) in j/a/s 1895 aged 42, a possible christening for Thomas Clarke snr in Tettenhall on 1/9/1839, but would be grateful for some help on the marriage of Thomas and Amelia, Amelia's maiden name and also birth details and any clues for Thomas's parents and where in Pendeford he may have been living. I know that the Dovecote has been there for a while and that it was mainly farmland, but any info will be greatly appreciated.
Many thanks :-)
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Re: Clarke born in Pendeford, Wolverhampton
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 30 June 09 13:07 UTC (UK) »

Pendeford shown as 'address' on the handwriiten page ...

1841 - HO107/1002/13;  Tettenhall Regis With Tettenhall Clericorum; District: 1; Folio: 8; Page: 11
'Pendeford' address....


all born Staffs county
 
Joseph Clark 25  Butcher
Ann Clark 20 
John Clark 5 
Thomas Clark 3 

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Re: Clarke born in Pendeford, Wolverhampton
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 30 June 09 13:19 UTC (UK) »

Marriage - best shot given age of oldest dau ..

Marriages Mar 1875   
 
ANDERSON  Amelia Jane    Atcham  v6a p970    to    CLARKE  Thomas     

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Re: Clarke born in Pendeford, Wolverhampton
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 30 June 09 13:23 UTC (UK) »

Hi both  Smiley

Just for the record, it seems to me that Amelia was Thomas' second wife - the 1871 census shows him in Leominster with a wife Elizabeth E (or C) age 34 born Shropshire Wellington. Shout if you don't have the census details.

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Re: Clarke born in Pendeford, Wolverhampton
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 30 June 09 13:25 UTC (UK) »

was Thomas married previously - loads of older kids back in 1881 ..

 RG11/2802; Folio: 39; Page: 28; - Wolverhampton
Beacon Street

 
Thomas Clark 41  Head Carpenter born W'hampton
Amelia Clark 28  Wife Leominster
Gerty Clark 13  dau Ludlow
Constance Clark 9  dau Leominster
Amy Clark 5  dau W'hampton
Alice Clark 3  dau do
William Clark   2 months son dp
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Re: Clarke born in Pendeford, Wolverhampton
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 30 June 09 13:26 UTC (UK) »

first marriage ? matches RD of dau ....

Marriages Sep 1862   
 
Clarke  Thomas    Ludlow  6a 903    to    Gummer  Elizabeth Ann     
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Re: Clarke born in Pendeford, Wolverhampton
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 30 June 09 13:32 UTC (UK) »

(Editmeister - can you find a marriage to an Elizabeth Ellen instead?  Tongue)

1871
RG10/2714 30 7
Leominster, Herefordshire
17 Hereford Rd

Thomas Clark, head, 34, Joiner & Carpenter, b. Staffordshire Pendeford
Elizabeth E?, wife, 34, b. Salop Wellington
Isabella, dau, 9, b. Ludlow
Gertrude, dau, 4, b. do.
Ellen, dau, 3mo, b. Hereford Leominster 

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Re: Clarke born in Pendeford, Wolverhampton
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 30 June 09 13:39 UTC (UK) »

1861
RG9/1836 38 40
St Lawrence, Shropshire
Lower Broad

Thomas Clarke, head, 23, Carpenter & Joiner, b. Stafford Pendford
Elizabeth Ellen, wife, 24, b. Salop
Leonard, son, 2 mo, b. Salop Ludlow
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Re: Clarke born in Pendeford, Wolverhampton
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 30 June 09 13:40 UTC (UK) »

not that marriage then ?
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Re: Clarke born in Pendeford, Wolverhampton
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 30 June 09 13:49 UTC (UK) »

I don't know, really. There's also this one:

Thomas Clarke to possibly Elizabeth Ellen Nock
Sep 1858 Shrewsbury 6a 1059
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Re: Clarke born in Pendeford, Wolverhampton
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 30 June 09 14:07 UTC (UK) »

Birth Sep 1853 Leominster 6a 430   
Amelia Jane Anderson

Can't see her as Amelia put *possibly* as Jane:

1861
RG9/1831 37 25
Leominster, Herefordshire
West Street

Sidney Anderson, head, 46, Baker, b. Oxon not known
Jane, wife, 46, b. Worcestershire not known
Alfred, son, 15, b. Leominster
Charles, son, 13, scholar, b. do.
Jane, dau, 7, scholar, b. do.
Henry, son, 4, b. do.

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Re: Clarke born in Pendeford, Wolverhampton
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 30 June 09 18:15 UTC (UK) »

Many, many thanks to you all for this information, I will look through it tonight and tomorrow, it is my nan's family and she said that she remembers her nan being called Jinny or Jenny so I guess that that would be a 3rd wife! I have had some problems with death records as there seems to be a lot missing from ancestry ( I've just re-newed for a year half price!!) do you have other sites that will fill in the gaps in years?
Once again many thanks this really helps!
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Re: Clarke born in Pendeford, Wolverhampton
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 30 June 09 18:25 UTC (UK) »

For deaths, Ancestry have the FreeBMD database on the one hand, and the complete indexes on the other hand:
http://content.ancestry.co.uk/iexec/?htx=List&dbid=8966&offerid=0%3a7858%3a0

You have to view the images quarter by quarter though Tongue 
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Re: Clarke born in Pendeford, Wolverhampton
« Reply #13 on: Friday 03 July 09 12:25 UTC (UK) »

I have spoken to my nan again and she does not think that I have the right family as she only know of the mother called Jenny or Jinny and four children:
William Clarke
Fanny Clarke
Elizabeth Clarke
Thomas Clarke
and she remembers Jinny/Jenny dying in 1928/30 and her grandad dying around the same time but she does not know what his name was.
I have ordered the wedding certificate of Thomas so I can check the name of the father. Can any of you find a Jinny or Jenny?
Many thanks
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