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Topic: Bradmore wolverhampton, Gunmakers and Church Road (Read 1259 times)
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Uplands
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Thanks for that Willow.
As regards the Dead lads grave, I don't think you will find an answer to that as it has been a bit of a legend for many, many years and no-one to my knowledge has been able to find out the origin of it.
Here is a pic that might interest you both. It is one I took many, many years ago (I can't remember when but the cars might give it away) of Star Street, Bradmore prior to it all being altered.
Regards, Bob.
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truebritmega
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hmm I think ive seen that pic somewhere before, have you had it put in a book Bob? it looks familliar... I guess you didnt know anything about the school in church road being called "the old army" ?
Some pics Id be interested in... is the opposite side of hmmm how do I say, the opposite side of Trysul road, opposite the haulage yard (just before the shops with the chip shop etc) the houses between the gunmakers and the bradmore..
I only vaguely remember them now... very vaguely, I remember the old post office there and Franks vegetable shop (I think it was called franks.. the fella who owned it was called frank anyhow lol... he later went on to own the fireplace yard in brickkiln st)
And yes Willow.. I know the old carriage, well I know of.. it, mom knew it well, very well and knew the girl who lived there, My mom was born in victoria road, and her nan and aunts and cousins all lived in that street, as well as My great x 3 Uncle, at Gladstone House( its name is on one of the houses there, I took a pic of it, i'll look for the pic in a min and post it up if I find it lol (i love my camera phone!!LOL)
Oh and about last xmas-ish, the express and star ran a thing in it about the carriage house, I think it was a carl chin piece
And willow? anythign about the braziers in thaose books? theyw ere Gunmakers in Bradmore Cheers cuz (and Id still like that map you found if i might? lol
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truebritmega
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Here Gladstone Terrace
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Monaghan, Richards, Clark, Clarke,
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truebritmega
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In the second pic, vic road, 1 is roughly where gladstone terrace is,
2, is roughly where the carriage house is (it was actually up in that side street there , hmm i forgot that side streets name? Lutley Close?)
3 is where My grandad was lived in the 1901 census, his mom, was the niece of charles brazier, the fella from gladstone terrace (and he also lived at 3 church road)
4 is where My mom was born
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Uplands
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I'll see what I have got in my collection.
The picture of Star St has appeared before. I put it on Flickr amongst other things so it has probably been posted by a few people as I don't mind who uses my pics.
I wouldn't mind a picture of Judsons the bike shop if anyone has one.
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truebritmega
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ahh i do think it was flicker... and Judsons? here it comes... although my mom also remembers it as hills (tho i guess that was an owner of it at some point) she and her cousin used to take there bikes there to get its tyres pumped up (and sadly, that cousin of her died this past saturday from cancer  ) ) hmm am i allowed to post it tho? its not "my" pic, its a pic out of a newspaper?
If not, pm me and i'll email it
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Uplands
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I never answered your question about the school. I do remember it but only like your mother, we used to play there.
I don't suppose there are any pictures of it about now although in its time surely someone must have one somewhere!
I should imagine it was built around about the time the Bradmore school was built.
My brother went to Bradmore school but was moved to Warstones Rd when that opened on 14th Oct1940. I followed in 1941. It was quite strange to start with as the scool was only part built. The first headmistress was a Daisy Elwell and John J Deans took over on the 2nd Dec 1940. Mr Deans was there for many years.
As regards Judsons, I seem to remember it as a large wooden shed. People used to take their accumalators there to be charged at a penny a time to keep their old radio's going.
I am attaching a picture that have taken from a book. You can't see Judsons as the bus is in the way but it does show the old Star off- licence on the corner of Star St where many thousands of pints of beer were served to children in jugs for their fathers.
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Uplands
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Here is a picture of an old Tilling Stevens and crew outside the old Bradmore Inn which was on the other side of the road before the shops were built.
In my days I remember the shops, starting from the Broad Lane end as Hoopers the ironmongers, a cake shop, Vaughans the grocers, the Talbot twins greengrocers, Lyons the butchers, Wrights the chemists and where the savings bank is this was empty. I think that was the lot.
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truebritmega
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Oooh good pics Bob!, Mom remembers that wines shop, before my time tho (I think?) (i was born 1971)
heres the pic of Judsons...
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truebritmega
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Oh and as to the school in church road, I did get a pic of it recently... St Philips had a lil history thing for there 150th anniversary and they kindly sent me a copy of the photo! Ive put it on here in another psot, heres the link
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,368873.15.html
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Uplands
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Thanks for those they brought back some great memories.
You mentioned before the greengrocers by the Bradmore Post office.
When I was little the owner used to have a van and used to deliver in Uplands Avenue. I'm not positive but I am sure his name was Jones. I am talking about the 1940's.
The little old lady who ran the Bradmore PO had a son who used to help her. He was very tall and had to stoop to look through the hatch.
There was also another chemists by the PO as well as Wrights over the Road. If I remember correctly Mr Wright, a scotsman, committed suicide. Would your mother remember that and if so what year?
Regards, Bob.
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truebritmega
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Yes mom does remember Wrights, but she cant remember the year, (maybe when she was in her 20's, around 1950 )
And as to me saying mom remembered the man at Judsons being hills, sorry that was me miss-hearing her.. Judsons, was just Judsons... but, the houses, the terraces, alongside the gunmakers, there was another bike shop in one of the terraces... that, was Hills where she used to have her bike tyres pumped up for a penny, sorry to have mis said that earlier...
as to the tall fella at the post office, yes mom remembers him and she thinks he used to be a policeman
She also said she thinks that Talbots and Vaughns were in the same shop, one side selling butter etc... the other selling veg etc..
I remember Taylors well myself, and the butchers besides it, but when I was young it was another name...
Mom also said that just up from Judsons there used to be a fish shop (not where it is now, but just a few doors away from Judsons)
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truebritmega
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btw, you mentioned accumulators earlier?... what where they? some kind of batterry?
And as for me... ive been trying to find a pic of bradmore recreation grounds concrete castle, but alas w no luck, that was an old memory for me that I would dearly love a pic of as I spent the majority of my time there as a kid.. surely there must be photos of that!? it was there till hmm mid 80's at least
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Uplands
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I will have to jog your mothers memory here as regards to the shops at Bradmore.
Vaughans the grocers had a double front to it with an entrance either end as did Talbots.
Vaughans, the last time I was in Wolverhampton was a window fitting firm. As to Talbots I don't know who is there now.
I can still see Mr Vaughan clearly in my mind in his white smock. He used to have a moustache. He had a really good looking wife and two daughters. I think the eldest one was Pat and the youngest, who went to America was Angela.
The Talbots as I said before were identical twins and used to have brown smocks. Mrs Talbot used to work in the shop as well. There were two lads Bob being one of them. He lived in one of the newer houses at the top of Uplands Ave.
I remember the bike shop by the Gunmakers. If I remember correctly it was slightly below the footpath level.
She is correct with the fish shop though. I had forgotten about that until you reminded me.
Bantocks, during the war used to have big wooden posts stuck in the ground to prevent the Germans landing and after the war there used to be a yearly cattle type show in the lower part of the field. The Highlands Rd end.
Up towards Bantock house there used to be some pigsty's where a Leslie Foster used to keep quite a few.
I can't picture your castle though. I remember the playground being built in about 1949/50 well before the golf course was built.
Can your mother confirm the name of a shop for me please?
The ones by the Gunmakers. There was an ironmongers called Gamsons, then a type of sweetshop called something like Roseberrys? and then an electrical type shop.
I think your mother is a couple of years older than me but I am sure she would have visited the Penn cinema at some time. Any stories about that? What school did she attend? Does she remember the Grace's who lived in the terraces by the Gunmakers?
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truebritmega
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I'll ask her the questions, but I can tell you that yes, she went to the penn cinema very very often, i know her dad used to take her there too as well as going w her cousin (who sadly died last week) but the castle I waqs on about, wasnt bantock, it was the bradmore recreation ground (the rec) in church road, my second childhood home LOL
Talbots i remember well, but in latter years obviously when it was a florists
you forgot tho to tell me what accumulators are? lol are they a batterry type of thing?
For me personally.. i adore local history, especially of bradmore for I only know parts... of its past, but its eerie how my fascination for it all then turned out to be a family tie! (especially my great great great uncle being a Gunlock maker in bradmore lol )
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