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bristolloggerheads
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More French help please
« on: Monday 01 June 09 16:24 UTC (UK) »
The following is from 1402 and I can make out John Synore who I understand has been thrown in Marshalsea - I can make out commandant. Any idea on what the charge might be?

There is an endorsement asking for the reason for imprisonment to be declared in Chancery but the writing is very faint. Apologies for the right hand half of the page!
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Re: More Latin help please
« Reply #1 on: Monday 01 June 09 22:14 UTC (UK) »
Are you sure it's Latin? It looks a lot more like French to me - I could swear I can make out, in the more legible left-hand side, 'deux' 'pays' and 'bien', though I can't see anything that is recognisably Latin. Why don't you rename the post French/Latin in case?
               Best of luck,
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bristolloggerheads
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Re: More Latin help please
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 02 June 09 07:25 UTC (UK) »
You're right - I've enlarged it to A3 and can see it starts:
Supplient humblement voz poures lieges & oratories? John Synore de Twyng (Tewin) ...

Peter
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Re: More French help please
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 02 June 09 12:19 UTC (UK) »
Apparently the format was:

Address (the heading, the person it is addressed to)
Incipit
Recital
Problem
Conclusion
Supplication
Request for Process
Remedy
Explicit
Memorandum of Surety

Peter
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Re: More French help please
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 03 June 09 18:04 UTC (UK) »
Is this any help?

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Re: More French help please
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 03 June 09 21:53 UTC (UK) »
Briefly, non!
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Re: More French help please
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 04 June 09 06:23 UTC (UK) »
Is this better?



Will post the harder part later

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Re: More French help please
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 04 June 09 20:14 UTC (UK) »
This is the very end as best as I can get it.



That leaves the middle section still to come. I know it will make reading the lines difficult but it's the only way I can get any sort of legibility.

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Re: More French help please
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 04 June 09 21:11 UTC (UK) »
Hi Bristol,
              Your new scan of 7.23 this a.m. is a lot more readable; alas my acquaintance with old manuscript French is nil, so I can only wish you the best of luck and the prompt intervention of an expert.
                               Cheers,
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Re: More French help please
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 04 June 09 21:56 UTC (UK) »
Bon soir mon amie  Smiley
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