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Topic: The elusive Gibbins branch of the family. (Read 828 times)
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totally leics
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Hi, that is the marriage Mike. Apparently Henry was born in nearby Blaston and Ann Jane in Hallaton. That probably explains gt gt uncle Johnson's name, we often wondered why that was chosen.Just out of interest he went to train as a vet in Lincolnshire. Thanks to everybody's help I have now been able to trace the Gibbins line back as far as 1716, they seem mainly to have fluctuated between Hallaton and Medbourne at that time.
It is a good feeling when discovering family tradition to be factual, and now I've got a framework to find out more about them all well hopefully anyway. If anyone comes across any info about the Carvell family in Thurmaston especially Sarah born c 1830 please let me know.  TL
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Leics: Gibbins, White, Riddington, Peberdy, Spriggs, Monk, Tolton, Lane, Carver, Kenney, Johnson, Saddington, Benskin
Rutland: White, Walker, Rose, Snowdin
Staffs: Tuft, Westwood
Shrops:Tuft, Adams, Dunbar
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Tati
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The 1871 census told us that Sarah had a mother Mary born Thurmaston ca. 1808 and a sister Jane born Thurmaston ca. 1846
How do you like this family?
1851
HO107/2087 653 11
North Thurmaston, Leicestershire
John Carver, head, 50?, Ag lab, b. Leicestershire Barkby
Mary, wife, 44, b. Thurmaston
Sarah, dau, unm, 22, Dress maker, b. do.
John, son, 13, b. do. - blind
Thomas, son, 9, scholar, b. do.
Jane, dau, 5, scholar, b. do.
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totally leics
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Thanks Mike,all info much appreciated, not too sure about the Gibbons entries, but the burial sounds right on the button for George, their youngest was born in 1868 and he does not appear around 1871. Still puzzled by how the Bishops are related in all this, whether its by kinship or marriage. Will look more into how the other Hallaton marriage connects, but feel sure it does in someway!
Carver info also proving very useful thanks Tati.
Have been able to trace various other lines now through George's wife Sarah Carver mostly in Thurmaston and through her maternal line which has brought up the Lanes and the more unusual surname of Benskin (Jane born c1786). TL
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Leics: Gibbins, White, Riddington, Peberdy, Spriggs, Monk, Tolton, Lane, Carver, Kenney, Johnson, Saddington, Benskin
Rutland: White, Walker, Rose, Snowdin
Staffs: Tuft, Westwood
Shrops:Tuft, Adams, Dunbar
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totally leics
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Hi folks, could use some more experienced eyes to help me with another puzzle from the Gibbins family, feel like I'm going round in circles at mo!
When George Gibbins moved to live with the Bishops in Thurmaston (b 1824 Horninghold) it seems to say they are his uncles.Have found Daniel Bishop (b Mar 1781) and Samuel Bishop (b Sep 1784). Have also found a marriage between a Samuel Bishop and Ann Hughes on 22/May/1823 at St.Michaels church, Blaston, Leics. Henry Gibbins (father of George) appears to have been born in Blaston 1800, so that seems a tenuous connection, but I cannot link the relationship between Bishops and Gibbins.I explored the possibility that Samuel was George's step father, but his father Henry did not pass away until Aug 1860.
Any advice or info would be gratefully received. TL
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Leics: Gibbins, White, Riddington, Peberdy, Spriggs, Monk, Tolton, Lane, Carver, Kenney, Johnson, Saddington, Benskin
Rutland: White, Walker, Rose, Snowdin
Staffs: Tuft, Westwood
Shrops:Tuft, Adams, Dunbar
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totally leics
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Hi Mike, many thanks for yet again coming up with the goods!
Will certainly follow your advice and take a look at the licence bonds. Am learning all the time.
TL
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Leics: Gibbins, White, Riddington, Peberdy, Spriggs, Monk, Tolton, Lane, Carver, Kenney, Johnson, Saddington, Benskin
Rutland: White, Walker, Rose, Snowdin
Staffs: Tuft, Westwood
Shrops:Tuft, Adams, Dunbar
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Mercian
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Hi, Totally Leicester
Have followed your Gibbins thread with interest as I have lae 18th century Gibbinses in medbourne who may (nay probably do) link to yours somewhere along. I was wading through Hallaton (at Wigston office) for Stevensons, and Medbourne-Blaston for Warringtons/Waddingtons (interchangeable there I think?).
In my family John Waddington of Medbourne married Lydia Gibbins of Medbourne at Medbourne on 9 October 1792. John and Lydia were the parents of several children including Lucy Waddington (19 Jan 1798, Medbourne) who married Christopher Stevenson of Hallaton at Medbourne on 28 Dec 1815 - and became progenitors of a clan. The christian name Lydia came to the Stevensons from this Gibbins connection I believe. I am great-great-great grandson of Chris and Lucy and (four greats) from John W and Lydia Gibbins.
The furthest I felt I could safely go back was to Lydia's parents Henry Gibbins and Elizabeth (name unknown), and I just had the two children Lydia (christened 16 Sept 1770) and Elizabeth (christened 16 June 1772), both at Medbourne. I wonder if this little family group tallies with any of your Gibbins researches in that neighbourhood and whether you can point me to a way of following it sideways and upwards??
I should be most grateful for any advice. I've been in family history research for a few years but this is my first post ever on rootschat! I joined specially to ask you this!!
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Mercian
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PS., The plot thickens! ... I have been working on the theory that my ancestor John Waddington who married Lydia Gibbins in 1792 was one of the children of John Wa'rr'ington (the cursive 'r' and the curly 'd' become indistinguishable) and Elizabeth Turner (1723-1785) who married 12 Oct 1744 at Medbourne. (There's another John but he doesn't convince me). Children of John & Elizabeth Warr/ddington are Henry (1745), Elizabeth (1748), Lucy (1750), Mary (1753, = Robert Sharman 28 Sep 1779), Elenor (3 July 1756, = David Smeeton 25 Sept 1786), John (18 July 1761, = Lydia Gibbins 9 Oct 1792) and Lucy (1763-1792).
The key point is that Elizabeth (1748) married Edward Bishop (m 5 Oct 1778) - all at Medbourne.
So, if these deductions are okay, there is a connection at 2nd remove through the Waddingtons in the period 1778-1792 for Bishop and Gibbins family.
Hope that might help, and would love to know if this tallies with your findings.
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totally leics
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Hi Mercian, one of the delights of researching this branch of the family is that it keeps me on my toes with its twists and turns!
If my facts are correct then Edward Bishop( christened 09/july/1758) did indeed marry Elizabeth as you stated although there is some disparity in their ages which intrigues me, and according to my research thus far they were the parents of Daniel (chr 31/mar/1781) and Samuel (chr 20/sep/1784) at Thurmaston. Prior to Edward my hunt for the previous two generations of Bishops have led me to Asfordby, but I digress!
Its quite late now and I need to sit back and read your information closer, but I will certainly respond soon. I am still relatively new to family history, but enthusiastic and anything I have discovered I will gladly share.
If we are really fortunate more experienced RootsChatters may read this and be able to fill in a few gaps also. TL
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Leics: Gibbins, White, Riddington, Peberdy, Spriggs, Monk, Tolton, Lane, Carver, Kenney, Johnson, Saddington, Benskin
Rutland: White, Walker, Rose, Snowdin
Staffs: Tuft, Westwood
Shrops:Tuft, Adams, Dunbar
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Mercian
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Hah! Interesting 'twists and turns' is a polite way of saying that you may find more than one connection between (or even within) the same families (e.g. Gibbins, Robinson, Stevenson, Waddington etc) in the course of a couple of generations, in and around Hallaton, Medbourne, Blaston etc. No slur intended! but there are complexities.  I think the Bishop-Gibbins link I have suggested through the Waddingtons is too far back to explain the use of the word 'nephew' in the census relationship between Daniel Bishop and George Gibbins: but it might be the precursor of a later connection.
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Mercian
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A trawl of Leicestershire Bishops on IGI shows the family securely based there and at Asfordby and Gilmorton from the 17th century, but no natural focus near Hallaton, so Elizabeth is the Hallaton/Medbourne connection for that 1778 marriage. In addition to Dan and Sam I count six other children (all except Thomas 1788 being girls) to Edward and Elizabeth at Thurmaston, dating 1779-1790, fitting that marriage date neatly. There are other contemporary Thurmaston Bishop families with similar christian names (?brothers of Edward?) Edward as a Bishop christian name seems to be long-standing. Looks good. M
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totally leics
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Hi Mercian,
I have been busily trying to collate the information I have so far uncovered for the Gibbins clan. Collating, I'm afraid, is not my strongest point... however here are some of the facts thus far;
George Gibbins, who was the initial starting point, was the son of
HENRY BORN BLASTON 1800 , CHRISTENED MEDBOURNE 3/NOV/1801
ANNE JANE JOHNSON BORN 27/JAN/1802 HALLATON
MARRIED 12/SEPT/1822 HORNINGHOLD
HENRY'S PARENTS WERE WILLIAM GIBBINS CHR 31/MAR/1771 & ELIZABETH BREWSTER WHO MARRIED AT MEDBOURNE CUM HOLT ON 9/DEC/1799
WILLIAM'S PARENTS WERE THOMAS GIBBINS CHR 6/SEPT/1747 AT HALLATON & JANE FREESTONE WHO MARRIED 12/NOV/1766 AT MEDBOURNE CUM HOLT.
THOMAS' PARENTS WERE THOMAS GIBBINS BORN HALLATON c 1716 & SARAH CARTER BORN HALLATON c 1720. HAVE YET TO DISCOVER THEIR MARRIAGE DETAILS.
There the trail goes cold. I have several other Gibbins threads I am trying to piece together including your two ladies Lydia and Elizabeth in the immediate area, plus another line which keeps showing up in the Allexton, Belton in Rut and Skeffington area who I'm seeking a connection to due to their geographical proximity. It is hard to believe that so many apparently disparate lines of my family are all within a fifteen mile radius of each other quite aside from the Gibbins! So I will not be too surprised if and when "interesting" connections arise . I'm still trying to work out how the Bishop-Hughes-Gibbins exactly relate to George although thanks to Mike's find I know they do.. I really must find time to re visit the records office!
Any further finds or info I will be sure to let you know. TL
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Leics: Gibbins, White, Riddington, Peberdy, Spriggs, Monk, Tolton, Lane, Carver, Kenney, Johnson, Saddington, Benskin
Rutland: White, Walker, Rose, Snowdin
Staffs: Tuft, Westwood
Shrops:Tuft, Adams, Dunbar
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