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The elusive Gibbins branch of the family.
« on: Monday 01 June 09 17:12 UTC (UK) »

Hi, I'm hoping someone will be able to help solve this family conundrum for me.Sarah Gibbins was in the mill trade in Thurmaston in 1871, but I'm having problems tracing a husband for her then, plus in 1881 she emerges in Argyle St Leicester St.Margarets with her two youngest children, she is now Sarah Robinson, but still no husband. Could she have reverted to her maiden name, her daughters are still Gibbins. Her son Thomas is in Syston in 1881 as miller, grocer, & baker. This part of my puzzle is; did Sarah have two husbands, and if so, who were they?
   The second part is unfortunately more vague. There is a perceived family tradition that the Gibbins ancestors moved from Hallaton at some time in the 19th century and while I have located people by this surname in Hallaton in the 1820's I cannot find any link to the Thurmaston Gibbins family.
      Anyone who has had the patience to read all this and can offer any help whatsoever, I would be very grateful.
                                                        TL Huh
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Rutland: White, Walker, Rose, Snowdin
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Re: The elusive Gibbins branch of the family.
« Reply #1 on: Monday 01 June 09 17:41 UTC (UK) »

Hi totally Leics,

Have you ruled out this marriage?

Mar 1877
Barrow on Soar 7a 231
Sarah Gibbins to possibly Richard Robinson
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Re: The elusive Gibbins branch of the family.
« Reply #2 on: Monday 01 June 09 17:45 UTC (UK) »

Did you notice that her mother and sister are staying with her in 1871? Their name is Carvell, so we can imagine that Carvell was her maiden name.

Marriage
Sarah Carvell - George Gibbins
Mar 1852 Leicester 7a 295

(She's with George on the 1861 census for Thurmaston)

So it looks like she had 2 husbands indeed

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Re: The elusive Gibbins branch of the family.
« Reply #3 on: Monday 01 June 09 17:46 UTC (UK) »

Hi TL - if you would like folks to take a look for you,  we could with some more info,   when was Sarah born and where?  what was her maiden name?  and census references are good if you have them - sometimes a second pair of eyes and all that

Smiley

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Re: The elusive Gibbins branch of the family.
« Reply #4 on: Monday 01 June 09 17:51 UTC (UK) »

hhhmmm  Syston and Thurmaston I know very well... will see if i can find anything 

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Re: The elusive Gibbins branch of the family.
« Reply #5 on: Monday 01 June 09 17:51 UTC (UK) »

There is a perceived family tradition that the Gibbins ancestors moved from Hallaton at some time in the 19th century and while I have located people by this surname in Hallaton in the 1820's I cannot find any link to the Thurmaston Gibbins family.

The 1861 census shows that George was born Hallaton:

1861
RG9/2282 115 5
Thurmaston South, Leicestershire

George Gibbins, head, 36, Miller, b. Hallaton
Sarah, wife, 32, b. Thurmaston
Eliza A, dau, 7, scholar, b. do.
Thomas, son, 5, scholar, b. do.
William B, son, 4, scholar, b. do.
Johnson, son, 1, b. do.
Samuel Bishop, relative, wid, 75, Retired Miller, b. do.
+ 2 servants
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Re: The elusive Gibbins branch of the family.
« Reply #6 on: Monday 01 June 09 17:55 UTC (UK) »

Ohh nice one Tati   Cheesy

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Re: The elusive Gibbins branch of the family.
« Reply #7 on: Monday 01 June 09 18:00 UTC (UK) »

But it's Horninghold in 1851, Debbie  Tongue

George in 1851:

HO107/2087 661 1
Thurmaston South

Daniel Bishop, head, unm, 70, Miller and Baker, b. Thurmaston South
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Samuel Bishop, borther, wid, 66, Retired Farmer, b. do.
George Gibbons, nephew, 26, Journeyman Miller, b. Horninghold
Mary Carvell, serv, 19, General serv, b. Thurmaston North
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Re: The elusive Gibbins branch of the family.
« Reply #8 on: Monday 01 June 09 18:04 UTC (UK) »

MMMmm - but Horninghold is right next door to Hallaton

Smiley

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Re: The elusive Gibbins branch of the family.
« Reply #9 on: Monday 01 June 09 18:06 UTC (UK) »

Sounds good then  Smiley
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Re: The elusive Gibbins branch of the family.
« Reply #10 on: Monday 01 June 09 18:18 UTC (UK) »

I've found George in 1841 - still not with his parents though

Front Street, Thurmaston South
Samuel Bishop 50 Farmer Y
Ann Bishop 55 Y
George Gibbons 15 Y
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Re: The elusive Gibbins branch of the family.
« Reply #11 on: Monday 01 June 09 19:33 UTC (UK) »

There is a George Gibbins on IGI christened 1824 Horningold parent Henry Gibbins and Ann.
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Re: The elusive Gibbins branch of the family.
« Reply #12 on: Monday 01 June 09 19:44 UTC (UK) »

Makes you wonder whether Samuel was in fact his stepdad ...
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Re: The elusive Gibbins branch of the family.
« Reply #13 on: Monday 01 June 09 20:18 UTC (UK) »

Hi everyone, I've just been out walking my dogs and have come back to a goldmine of information, you guys are brilliant, I really cannot thank you enough! With regard to Richard Robinson I believe he was a Welsh doctor born c 1837 and lived next door to Thomas Gibbins, Sarah's son in Syston, but I thought that was co-incidental, but obviously not!
The only Gibbins I had located in the Hallaton area were John born c1796 and his wife Elizabeth born c1803 and a son Joseph born c1824, but Henry and Ann I'm sure are the ones.
It also looks as though George Gibbins most probably met his future wife Sarah through her sister Mary Carvell when he was living at his uncles. Wink.
This information has got me out of the rut, ( I'm still learning about all this being new to it etc.,) and has given me plenty to dig deeper on now. Smiley
Again, a big thank you for all the help.
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Rutland: White, Walker, Rose, Snowdin
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Re: The elusive Gibbins branch of the family.
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 02 June 09 01:01 UTC (UK) »

Greeting’s….Folks.

Marriage worthy of note. :~

1824.
St: Peter’s Parish Church. Horninghold.:~

Henry Gibbins. ~ Ann Jane JOHNSON.
19th. April.
By Banns.
Groom was a Labourer.

Umm ?.....The surname of  Johnson appeared on the 61 census returns

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