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Myfi!
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If anyone has access to Sculcoates marriages I would be grateful if they could check the marriage of Hans MAENS & Marian CLARKSON 23 Sep 1827
would like to know the status of Marian and also names of witnesses
Myfi
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Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukBERRY-(Wexford, Ireland>England) BERNEY- Tullowbeg, Co. Carlow MUSTY-(Oxfordshire>Wiltshire>India) PUFFITT-(Filkins,Oxfordshire) HARNESS (EastRiding,Yorks. & Lincolnshire) LANE- India, STOLLERY-(Ipswich,>Leiston,Suffolk) HERCLIFF (East Riding, Yorks) ABBA/ABBAY/ABBEY Yorkshire to St.Petersburg Russia
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AnneMc
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Hi Myfi:
What a surprise to see your message. I did some research on this couple last Sept while I was in Salt Lake as I believe that Marion is the daughter of John and Ann hercliff. I am going to be in Yorkshire this July and I am going to see if I can find the marriage record. Have got copies of the census information.
Cheers anne
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AnneMc
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Hi myfi:
I do have a copy of the marriage certifcate for Hans Maens and Marian Clarkson:
Here is the information:
Hans Maens of this parish, Sugar Baker, single adn Marian Clarkson of this parish single were married in this church by Banns , this 23 day of September 1827. by William Reary, curate
Hard to read who the wittnesses are first names are George and a John.
I my reason why I think Marian is a Hercliff.
1841 Census, Sculcoates
Han Mines 35 labourer born Foreign parts Miriam 45 Yks Samuel 12 " Frederick 10 " Henry 8 " Elizabeth 2 " Thomas Clarkson 15 " John Clarkson 15 "
I think that Thomas and John Clarkson are the children of Marian from her first marriage to Jonathan Clarkson.
Now John and Ann Hercliff had a daughter Elizabeth who married a John Rilet in 1824. The 1851 census has the following informaton.
Hull, Yks
22 North Street
John Rillet 56 Grocer Hereford Lincolnshire Elizabeth " 48 Epplewell, Yorks Mary Hepton 52 Lodger Hull, Yks Isabella " 27 Hull, Yks George Wharam 25 " " Margaret " 25 " " John William " 6 ' " Mary Sawyer 30 " " Emily Clarkson 28 " Newark Nottinghamshire Mariam " 5 " Hull, Yks.
I find it interestng that an Mary Clarkson is living with Elizabeth Rillet. She could be a niece in law to Elizabeth. Emily is shown as a widow on the census. So she could have been married to John or Thomas Clarkson. Going to see if I can find a marriage.
Also found on the 1871 census in Hull
George Bulters 28 born Lincolnshire Mariam A. Bulters 25 Hull, Yks Emily E. 3 Hull, Yks Elizabeth Rilett 65 Epplewell, Yks Edward Skins 27 Lincolnshire
Elizabeth is listed as a visitor and Edward as a boarder I think this shows there is a connection of Elizabeth to the Clarkson family. I know I looked up the marriage for Mariam Clarkson and she did marry a George Bulters.
Hope this makes sense to you.
Cheers
anne
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AnneMc
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Hello Myfi:
Just found the following marriages:
March 1845 Sculcoates
John Clarkson Emily Stoker
This marriage certificate should show the name of John's father.
March 1866 Hull
Emily A. Clarkson George Butters
Cheers Anne
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Bee
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Hans Maens of this parish, Sugar Baker, single adn Marian Clarkson of this parish single were married in this church by Banns , this 23 day of September 1827. by William Reary, curate
Hard to read who the wittnesses are first names are George and a John.
Hi I have the booklet of Sculcoates marriages 1821-1829
The curate's name is Keary and the witness' are George Medcalf and John Bradbury. Maybe the 1st witness may be of interest to you but John Bradbury seems to be a witness at almost every marriage in Sculcoates
Bee
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Dinsdale, Ellis, Gee, Goldsmith,Green,Hawks,Holmes, Lacey, Longhorn, Pickersgill, Quantrill,Tuthill, Tuttle & Walker, in E & W Yorks, Lincs, Norfolk & Suffolk. Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Myfi!
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Hi Bee
Thanks everso for checking in your booklet and the extra details it gave, much appreciated.
Hi Anne
Great to hear from you again, bah these Hercliffs are a pain!! I gave them a rest for a while as they were "doin me ed in" ...lol
I had worked out that it was possible that Marian Clarkson was our Mary formerley Hercliff b.1794 d/o John & Ann but hoped that the marriage entry to Hans Maens would say that she was a widow just to confirm it.
Have you managed to find a burial for her first husband Jonathon Clarkson? I've hunted high and low without any luck.
Myfi
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Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukBERRY-(Wexford, Ireland>England) BERNEY- Tullowbeg, Co. Carlow MUSTY-(Oxfordshire>Wiltshire>India) PUFFITT-(Filkins,Oxfordshire) HARNESS (EastRiding,Yorks. & Lincolnshire) LANE- India, STOLLERY-(Ipswich,>Leiston,Suffolk) HERCLIFF (East Riding, Yorks) ABBA/ABBAY/ABBEY Yorkshire to St.Petersburg Russia
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AnneMc
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Hi Janeyanne:
Thank you very much for sending me the photo. I am sure this family will fit in somewhere. Enjoy your visit to the archives. Hope you have lots of luck.
Cheers anne
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