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Topic: 1861 /1871 lookup please. (Read 196 times)
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tazzie
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Hi All.....
Due to another post it has promted me to look at another line that marries in to my family.
Looking for Arthur Barham b @ 1824 Chilham Kent
wife Elizabeth b @ 1827 Nuneaton Warks
know child Charles b @ 1851 Lambeth London.
Many thanks
Tazzie
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Mum44
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hi Tazzie
1861
RG9 P. 349 Fol. 129 Pg. 12
Private House, College Wharf, Lambeth
BARNHAM
Arthur head M 36 Corn Porter B. Kent, Chilham
Elizabeth Wife M 34 B. Warks, Atherston
Mary Ann dau 13 B. ~ ~
John Son 11 B. Cheshire, Macclesfield
William Son 8 B. London
Arthur Son 6 B. Surrey, new Cross
Elizabeth Dau 3 B. ~ ~
Charles Son 1 mth. B. lambeth
Mary Wid 70 Charwoman B. Burton under Blean
Wrong age for Charles  It is transcribed as 1 mth. It could be 11 years - entered in wrong column, it looks like, and crossed out - but, he is at the end of the list
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Census information is Crown Copyright from TNA.
Titchfield, Hampshire: Reed, Fielder, Cawte, Goddard.
Kent: Float, Cutbush.
Wallasey, Cheshire: Carroll, Ledsham.
Liverpool : Horsfall, Prescott
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Mum44
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Mmnn - he's 11 years in 1871
1871
RG10. P. 633 Fol. 88 Pg. 8
25 George Row, St Mary Bermondsey
BARHAM
Arthur Head M 46 Corn porter B. Kent, Chilham
Elizabeth Wife M 43 B. Warks, Atherston
Mary Ann Dau 23 Laundress B. Warks, Abelborell
John Son 21 Lighterman B. Cheshire, Macclesfield
William son 18 Labourer B. City of London
Arthur Son 16 ~ B. Kent, New Cross
Elizabeth Dau 14 Fur cleaner B. ~ ~
Charles Son 11 B. lambeth
Edward Son 6 B. Lambeth
How sure are you of Charles age / born 1851 ?
This might not be him 
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Census information is Crown Copyright from TNA.
Titchfield, Hampshire: Reed, Fielder, Cawte, Goddard.
Kent: Float, Cutbush.
Wallasey, Cheshire: Carroll, Ledsham.
Liverpool : Horsfall, Prescott
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tazzie
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Hi Mum .....
The one I have is found RG12/504 PAGE 27
AT 115 Pomeroy St ? Civil parish St Paul USD Greenwich
I have a very faded sheet and I read it as 30 but I think you are right he should only be 20.
It is definatly the right family and by 1891 Charles is in the fur trade.
Many Thanks for that even though I cannot see for toffee!
Tazzie
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tazzie
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Hi Mum .....
I am having a really bad day ....
Rg12 is 1891 and he is shown as b 1861 so 30.... but I was looking at 1881 at the time and took off 30 from that to get 1851............ brain seriously stretched today..sorry...
Can I be cheeky and ask if you can see him in 1901 at all ...please... and put me out of my slump and back on track.
Thanks
Tazzie
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Mum44
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Oh dear  Too much sun, perhaps 
1901
RG13. P. 1631 Fol. 141 Pg. 36
41 Mount Pleasant Road, Walthamstow, Essex
BARHAM
Charles head M 40 ?? Seal skins B. Surrey, Lambeth
Alfraetta wife M 31 B. Surrey, Bermondsey
Edward C Son 3 B. ~ ~
Emily J Dau 1 B. Essex, Walthamstow
Alice B Dau 3 mths. B. ~ ~
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Census information is Crown Copyright from TNA.
Titchfield, Hampshire: Reed, Fielder, Cawte, Goddard.
Kent: Float, Cutbush.
Wallasey, Cheshire: Carroll, Ledsham.
Liverpool : Horsfall, Prescott
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tazzie
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Hi Mum ....
I think it was..... been a real strange day still warm.
Anyway brain has now been fed & watered and I will now digest all this info.Seal skins .... mmm not popular trade to be in now would it..?
Thank you so much for the help ... I've lost the plot with my counting...... better improve I am in school tomorrow can't let the 5 year olds show me up!
Thanks again ....
Tazzie
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tazzie
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Hi...
I thought this one would be easier than this but I may have to get the cert..
I am sure this is the right Charles. I am trying to see if he links as father to Lillian Maud Barham who is with him & his parents in 1891. Lillian Maud marries into my family.
1891 has him as married but no wife present. He does not marry Alfraetta (nee Cooper) until 1925 in West Ham.
There is a marriage in St Olave in 1882 for a
Charles Barham to either Amelia Ann Davey or Caroline Roberts.
Other groom being Joseph Twocock....... yes that IS what it says
Looks like I will have to save some more pennies to solve this one.
Tazzie
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halfpenny
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Hi there,
This Charles Barham was my Husband's grandfather. Can I help with anything? He was a seal skin unhairer for many years! lol
Halfpenny
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Mum44
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Hi there,
This Charles Barham was my Husband's grandfather. Can I help with anything? He was a seal skin unhairer for many years! lol
Halfpenny
Well  an unhairer  I knew what I thought I could see wasn't right - but I've never heard that expression, so didn't make the connection
That's my something new learned today, then
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Census information is Crown Copyright from TNA.
Titchfield, Hampshire: Reed, Fielder, Cawte, Goddard.
Kent: Float, Cutbush.
Wallasey, Cheshire: Carroll, Ledsham.
Liverpool : Horsfall, Prescott
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tazzie
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Hello Halfpenny....
So an unhairer.... never heard of that one before.
I started this post in the hope of finding the family of Lillian Maud Barham who married William Edward Farrington Liscoe. I have their wedding photo from 1910. They had 2 children William G in 1914 & Lilian M in 1919. William snr died in 1931 and William jnr in 1934.
William is the brother of my great grandfather Richard and as I had the photo wanted to find out more.
I may have to get the marriage cert for Lilian Muad to check on her father unless you know more of the family.
Tazzie
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