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Shannie
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Help with finding John Boyd born london middlesex
« on: Wednesday 03 June 09 16:19 BST (UK) »
Hiya, I'm wondering if anyone can help me locate my 3rd grt grandad and his famliy?

I have the following details and 2 possible date of births;

John married in liverpool, on his marriage certifcate in 1867 John was a labourer aged 24(b.1843) status Widower. His father is listed as Richard Boyd -occupation Euston House Clerk.

On subsequent from Census his d.o.b was 1831.

However on the 1871 census his surname is Bird(possibly due to accent not being understood in Liverpool, just a possiblity)

I found a possible15 april 1.832 St Olave Southwick, parents richard and mary boyd. No this date for this family

Other than this I have been unable to trace the family anywere.


The only other possible I have found was a family in liverpool in 1861 all born London Middlesex.

Head: Thomas Bird b. 1826 pub licencee
Mum: Mary Bird married
Brother: John bird b.1831 dock labourer
Brother : Henry Bird b. 1838
Sister: Eliza Bird b.1840

Boarder Daniel Boyd

any help would be greatful

many thanks sharon
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Re: Help with finding John Boyd born london middlesex
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 03 June 09 16:23 BST (UK) »
There seem to be a lot of variations here in name and dates, making it hard to get a starting point that is definite and confirmed.

As he is your ggggrandad, it would be wise to come down a generation first to your gg grandad.
Who is he/date /place birth etc?

If you can find him on the censuses with his family it may help clarify.
How do you know this is the right marriage cert if age is way out?
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Re: Help with finding John Boyd born london middlesex
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 03 June 09 16:39 BST (UK) »
My aunty gave me her aunties and uncles names along with grandparents, who were John Boyd 1877 amd Ellen Cosgrove

SO then I order my grt grandad John Boyd's birth certif in 1877 giving me John boyd and Bridget o'brein as parents. Then I linked up with people searching the same John and bridget to get there childrens names which enabled me to confirm the right family via the census.

Then I ordered John and ellen's marriage certif which had John boyd same occupation.

From there I ordered the marriage certificate for John and Bridget hence  finding the the fathers name Richard. But it wasnt uncommon for men to lower age on subsquent marriages it has happened a few times along various lines.

sharon
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Re: Help with finding John Boyd born london middlesex
« Reply #3 on: Friday 19 June 09 22:14 BST (UK) »
See also

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,376894.0.html

Regards

Valda
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Re: Help with finding John Boyd born london middlesex
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 20 June 09 23:01 BST (UK) »
sorry, must be aven a dumb moment sorry for relisting this, I dont do my tree regular at the min, I must forgot to search b4 listing this. soory for the 2 records. 

However, there is futher info here that may help those who were helping on the earlier search. As the boyd/bird family in 1861 is proving difficult to find in 1851 to see if the father is richard.

Any ideas ?

thanks Shannie
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