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molly90
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Re: Queens Arms, Winshill
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 07 June 09 18:48 UTC (UK) »

Hello PC 99
It is a long time since I heard it called Gorby's knob.  I too had rellies in Stapenhill (Ferry Street)  Nothing wrong with Stapenhill.  I was visiting Stapenhill cemetery three weeks ago.  Found my long lost grandparents grave.

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Re: Queens Arms, Winshill
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 10 June 09 22:22 UTC (UK) »

Hi Alfie

I have found a photo for you !

I hope this helps

Paul


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Re: Queens Arms, Winshill
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 11 June 09 06:31 UTC (UK) »

Well done Paul.

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Re: Queens Arms, Winshill
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 11 June 09 07:56 UTC (UK) »

Frank,
A very very big Thankyou Frank.

The space on the left of the photograph is where our old house stood (No 3)

I cannot tell you how i felt when i saw that photograph.

It was the house where i was born, and where my Mother lived for sixty years.

I am so very pleased i found Rootschat, and all the wonderful people on here.

Alfie will be over the moon, as I am.

My regards and gratitude.
Molly  Cry Smiley
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Re: Queens Arms, Winshill
« Reply #19 on: Thursday 11 June 09 08:19 UTC (UK) »

Frank (or Paul)

Just a note.  The building on the right is part of another pub, called The Traveller's Rest, which has only been demolished recently.  The pub was full of character, and my fathers 'watering hole'.

Love the Queens has had it's chips bit Smiley

Molly

Thanks again.
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Re: Queens Arms, Winshill
« Reply #20 on: Thursday 11 June 09 15:13 UTC (UK) »

Hi Molly

Glad I could help!
I found the picture in a book called Burton on Trent Pubs, I have loads of local books from Burton and Derby to do with Pubs and Breweries so if there is anything else you are after let me know. Grin

Paul   


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Re: Queens Arms, Winshill
« Reply #21 on: Thursday 11 June 09 17:32 UTC (UK) »

Paul,
Thank you for the photograph of The Travellers Rest, how it used to look.   I am speechless.  There were two 'stumps', either side of the church yard gates where two 'characters' used to sit'.  I never knew their proper names, they were always 'Gorgy', who had one leg, and 'Bubbles' who could not walk properly.

The photograph would probably have been taken when Mr Bourne kept it.  It was always immaculate then, but sadly went 'downhill' afterwards.

I have printed all the copies off and will treasure them.

I would imagine the little girl is going to Harvey's on an errand for her mum.

Thankyou so much for taking the time and trouble to send the photographs.  It was very good of you.  I am sure Alfie will appreciate them too.

Best wishes
Molly
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Re: Queens Arms, Winshill
« Reply #22 on: Friday 12 June 09 08:30 UTC (UK) »

Pat,
I think i mentioned i had cuttings of the infant school teachers, there are about four alltogether, and are rather large to put on here, some are of the children who attended the school, circa, 1949/50.

If you want to pm your address, I will gladly copy them and send them by post.

Regards
Molly
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Re: Queens Arms, Winshill
« Reply #23 on: Sunday 14 June 09 20:31 UTC (UK) »

Wow Paul,

To say I am pleased/impressed/grateful is putting it mildly! I have been away for a few days and came back to your wonderful photos. To think that my great grandmother was born in that pub, and seeing it, well, I am just overwhelmed that someone took the trouble to send the photo, thank you. I am doing a family tree book for my mother for Christmas and this will bring back so many memories for her.

Best wishes

Alfie
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Re: Queens Arms, Winshill
« Reply #24 on: Sunday 14 June 09 22:58 UTC (UK) »

Hi Alfie

Its a great community on here!
The other day someone restored some pictures for me so there is always someone willing to help .
Iam glad you are pleased

Paul
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Re: Queens Arms, Winshill
« Reply #25 on: Tuesday 16 June 09 07:47 UTC (UK) »

Hi Alfie, 

Yes, thanks again Paul.  It was great to see those photographs.

Alfie.
Mr and Mrs Cowley kept chickens, and one day one of them escaped into our garden.  There was my brother and I trying to catch this chicken, with Mrs Cowley laughingly watching us.  Anyway we cornered it in the end, but my brother would not pick it up, so i had to.  Funny the things you remember isn't it. 

They were very long gardens in the street, we were able to grow all our fruit and veg.  We also kept our own chickens.

Mr Cowley was a very quite man, and walked very slowly.  That Tan jacket is very prominent in my mind, for some reason.

I also recall someone called Hickman? was it.  Could he have had a son called Terrence?

If I think of anything else I will let you know.

Best wishes
Molly
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Re: Queens Arms, Winshill
« Reply #26 on: Wednesday 17 June 09 20:24 UTC (UK) »

Hi Paul and Molly,

Paul, have you any idea when the first photo of the Queen's arms was taken? I am trying to work out if it was when my gr gr grandparents owned it.

Molly, Mr Cowley died aged 34 of spinal meningitis which could explain why he walked so slowly. Am wondering however if the Mr and Mrs Cowley that you remember are my direct relatives, or whether they are the son and daughter in law. I say this because Mr Joseph Cowley died in 1891, and I can't work out how you would have met him (unless you are about 120!). Sarah Jane Cowley died sometime after 1926 so that is more feasible, I wonder if Sarah Jane married again... something else to look for.

You are both so much help, thank you again, it is bringing my family alive

Helen
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Re: Queens Arms, Winshill
« Reply #27 on: Wednesday 17 June 09 20:44 UTC (UK) »

In case you didn't realise, Helen is Alfie, or rather Alfie is Helen!!  I just find it easier to use Alfie as that is what everyone calls me due to my username (which is named after my two dogs)

This is a photo of Mrs Cowley, do you recognise her Molly?

Best wishes

Alfie


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Re: Queens Arms, Winshill
« Reply #28 on: Wednesday 17 June 09 22:17 UTC (UK) »

Hi Alfie

Iam not too sure about the photo but looking at the Ind Coope light above the door Iam thinking around 1960's or early 70's.

Hope this helps

Paul   
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Re: Queens Arms, Winshill
« Reply #29 on: Thursday 18 June 09 16:20 UTC (UK) »

Hi Alfie,

I am a bit younger than a hundred and twenty Smiley so it must have been a son and daughter in law, or it could have been a descendent of theirs.  Thinking about it, I always knew them as Mr and Mrs Cowley and never knew their christian names.  It was not done in those days. I certainly did not recognize the photograph, kind of you to send it though.

The houses were demolished in about 1970, so the photograph would have been taken after then.  You will probably find them on the 1911 census,  although it is rather expensive.  The Mr Cowley I knew would probably have died in middle fifties.  He would certainly have been older than 34.

I did feel rather old when you mentioned your gr gr gr grandparents and i supposed i should have realized that it could not possibly have been them.

Best wishes
Molly
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