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WelwynGC1
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Local Maps 1880`s??
« on: Saturday 06 June 09 06:53 UTC (UK) »
Good morning all, please could some kind soul point me( my brickwork is a bit the worse for wear!!) in the right direction for viewing maps for the local area from the 1880`s.
Particularly interested in Hatfield and surrounding area, especially the bit that was then Hatfield but is now Welwyn GC.

Much appreciated.

Steve.
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RichardK
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Re: Local Maps 1880`s??
« Reply #1 on: Monday 08 June 09 11:38 UTC (UK) »
www.old-maps.co.uk

http://www.visionofbritain.org.uk/maps/index.jsp

or hard copy reprints from Cassini maps and Alan Godfrey Maps are good too.  Hertfordshire Archives at County Hall will also have tithe / enclosure and other maps.

Good luck
Richard.
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WelwynGC1
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Re: Local Maps 1880`s??
« Reply #2 on: Monday 08 June 09 12:34 UTC (UK) »
Thanks Richard, for taking the time to reply.

Will give those a go.

Steve.
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Re: Local Maps 1880`s??
« Reply #3 on: Monday 08 June 09 13:27 UTC (UK) »
I think I am right in saying that the tithe maps date around 1840 but I know for a fact that HALS have maps for this time frame as I have looked at some of them.  Just ask in the local studies section.
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Re: Local Maps 1880`s??
« Reply #4 on: Monday 08 June 09 16:43 UTC (UK) »
Thanks for that Benzon, it usually seems to follow that current day names have originated from old ones or something similar, though l found on the census a road that l have never heard of and am surprised hasnt been kept in later times. Rauters Row???
Probably because the part of Hatfield that l am interested in is now part of Welwyn Garden City.
After looking at the census of both 1881 and 1891 l decided to look at all the pages either side of my ancestors to get a clearer picture.
As clear as mud but l am slowly getting there.

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Re: Local Maps 1880`s??
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 10 June 09 11:06 UTC (UK) »
My local library (Hemel Hempstead) was selling Victorian Ordnance Survey maps of my local area.  It might be worth popping in to the main WGC library and see if they sell local maps of your area.

Rick Smiley
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WelwynGC1
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Re: Local Maps 1880`s??
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 11 June 09 04:39 UTC (UK) »
Hi Rick, and thanks for the info, l will pay them a visit, dont use it often but the staff are very helpful.

I found those sites mentioned earlier a bit difficult to navigate so the library may well be better.

Will let you know what l find.

Steve.
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Re: Local Maps 1880`s??
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 18 June 09 11:50 UTC (UK) »
Quote from: Rick on Wednesday 10 June 09 11:06 UTC (UK)
My local library (Hemel Hempstead) was selling Victorian Ordnance Survey maps of my local area.  It might be worth popping in to the main WGC library and see if they sell local maps of your area.

Rick Smiley
Hi Rick, l went to the local library but alas they dont have anything. I wonder if the maker of those maps at your library are in posession of any for this neck of the woods???

Regards......Steve.
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Re: Local Maps 1880`s??
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 18 June 09 14:08 UTC (UK) »
Steve

They only had ones for my local area. I did buy a couple which I will dig out and give you the publisher's details.

Rick Smiley
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Re: Local Maps 1880`s??
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 18 June 09 18:13 UTC (UK) »
Hi Steve,

Have you tried HALS?.  They have quite a range of Victorian Ordnance Survey maps for sale.

Regards   ...   Peter
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Re: Local Maps 1880`s??
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 18 June 09 19:18 UTC (UK) »
...which are the Alan Godfrey ones I referred to above.  You can order them online from http://www.alangodfreymaps.com/
...but they're better for towns than rural areas.  As Welwyn Garden City was a rural area in Victorian times, you might find Cassini's reprint of the 1" map for Luton & Hertford more helpful - especially as they do a version which has the modern National Grid superimposed on the old map, at 1:50000 scale, allowing you to directly compare the modern OS map with the earlier maps.  For my area they've even got four maps together, showing it in the 1830s, 1890s, 1920s and modern on the same sheet, all at the same scale.
http://www.cassinimaps.co.uk/
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Re: Local Maps 1880`s??
« Reply #11 on: Friday 19 June 09 14:12 UTC (UK) »
Alas I couldn't find the maps, so I rang Hemel library.  They no longer sell them but the guy I spoke to was pretty sure that they were Alan Godfrey maps.  As Richard has already given the URL I won't repeat it here.

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Re: Local Maps 1880`s??
« Reply #12 on: Friday 19 June 09 14:23 UTC (UK) »


Hi Rick

What are the names of the people living in rauteurs row as i also had family living there at some point.


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Re: Local Maps 1880`s??
« Reply #13 on: Friday 19 June 09 14:26 UTC (UK) »


Hi Steve

Just an apology for calling you rick, i have just got home from work with a bad headache and i am not thinking straight, sorry.

Jackie
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WelwynGC1
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Re: Local Maps 1880`s??
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 21 June 09 14:52 UTC (UK) »
Thanks to all who have replied in the last couple of days, l appreciate you posting and will progress better with the help you have given.

Jackie...Rauters Row....if thats what its called...(where was it)? Names as far as l can make out....

Croucher?
Frauchet?
Cooper (Publican)
Marner ? Warner ? Narner??
Kearney?
Marner?
Monk
Birch
Sharp
Cook or Cork?
Hulks (Incredible?)
Wallis?
Groom
Marner?
Tomblin?

Just put a ? if not sure of the handwriting/spelling.

Steve.
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