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plimmerian
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help with address needed please
« on: Saturday 06 June 09 15:16 UTC (UK) »

Can anyone out there read this address on a marriage certificate I have just received (thank you friend!!)
I can make out Brockworth but can't read the bit above it.
Many thanks!


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Re: help with address needed please
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 06 June 09 15:34 UTC (UK) »

This is seriously awful writing!

Second word:-
Sunrise ??

Jen
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Re: help with address needed please
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 06 June 09 15:40 UTC (UK) »

You might need to think tactically on this one!

What is the name of the person - is it near census time and are they at the same address?

You could look at a census near this date and look at the enumerator's walk to see which properties are listed.  Brockworth used to be a lot smaller than it is now, so there shouldn't be all that much choice!

If you give us a bit more info, we might be able to help.

Kind regards, Arranroots  Wink
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SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN
HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD
GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS
WIL: WEBB, SALTER
RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS
GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY
MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD
SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON
IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)
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Re: help with address needed please
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 06 June 09 15:59 UTC (UK) »

third word "hamlet" ?

well just a thought ...
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plimmerian
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Re: help with address needed please
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 06 June 09 16:00 UTC (UK) »

hi

tricky one this, as it is a 1952 marriage and individuals may still be alive!

It didn't make sense to me as it looks like "National Service Works" and would seem a strange place to live!?!

thanks for trying though!

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Re: help with address needed please
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 06 June 09 16:02 UTC (UK) »

Yes, I liked the word hamlet too, Liz.

Genuki isn't very helpful on this one.  The enumerator's walk shows only a couple of road names (and only a couple of surnames, lol!)

We need more info Ian!

Oh - just seen your post as a red msg.

A lot of building went on around war-time associated with the aircraft industry.  It could be that it was a temporary accommodation maybe?



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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN
HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD
GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS
WIL: WEBB, SALTER
RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS
GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY
MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD
SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON
IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)
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Re: help with address needed please
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 06 June 09 16:06 UTC (UK) »

I found this reference

Witcombe Industrial Hostel, Shurdington Rd, Brockworth, Ministry of Labour & National Service,

Here

So possibly "hostel" for the last word?



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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN
HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD
GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS
WIL: WEBB, SALTER
RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS
GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY
MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD
SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON
IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)
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Re: help with address needed please
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 06 June 09 16:11 UTC (UK) »

Sounds as though it wasn't a great place to live in 1946:

Hostel, Cheltenham (Complaints)HC Deb 26 November 1946 vol 430 cc1386-7 1386
§ 5. Mr. Lipson asked the Minister of Labour if he has considered the statement sent to him describing the unsatisfactory conditions, due to bad management, at the Brockworth Hostel, near Cheltenham, where, approximately, 1,000 workers from South Wales are housed; and, as these are affecting the supply of labour for the factory of Messrs. A. W. Hawksley, Limited, engaged in producing aluminium houses, if he will hold an inquiry into the complaints of the men, which are supported by the management of Messrs. A. W. Hawksley, Limited, with a view to remedying the grievances of residents in the hostel.

§ Mr. Isaacs I have considered the statement sent to me by the hon. Member. I have made inquiries and am satisfied that there are no grounds for the complaint about feeding conditions although there is pressure at meal times owing to the large number of residents at the hostel; this would be substantially eased if the hours of work of the residents were staggered. As regards the need for redecoration, it is not possible without detriment to other more urgent work to do more than is absolutely essential. I have had no specific complaints from the firm mentioned, and I can assure the hon. Member that the conditions at this hostel have been under constant review.

§ Mr. Lipson May I ask the right hon. Gentleman who conducted this inquiry? Will he have an impartial inquiry by Members of the House or by somebody else, because the conditions are serious, and they are affecting the supply of houses by this firm, whose management and men will receive the Minister's reply with disappointment?

§ Mr. Isaacs I wish it were possible at Question time to go more fully into this matter, but this hostel has been under very constant attention and review over many weeks—

§ Sir Waldron Smithers By whom?

§ Mr. Isaacs Not by you, at any rate. [Interruption.]I will correct myself by saying Not by the hon. Gentleman on 1387 the Back Bench. "There has been a considerable amount of worry about this place, as another Question on the Order Paper shows. It is not so much a question of the residents being dissatisfied. The mischief is really caused by one individual.

§ Mr. Lipson In view of the unsatisfactory nature of the reply, I wish to give notice that I shall raise this matter on the Adjournment at the earliest possible opportunity.

§ 10. Mr. Parkin asked the Minister of Labour what complaints have been made by the residents committee of Brockworth Hostel, near Gloucester; and what action has been taken.

§ Mr. Isaacs Complaints by such committees would normally be addressed to the National Service Hostels Corporation and dealt with through a recognised procedure for consultation between such committees and the management. I understand that there is at present no elected residents committee at the hostel concerned owing to the unwillingness of residents to serve. In the circumstances the manager has nominated a committee with whom he is working.


Source: http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/commons/1946/nov/26/hostel-cheltenham-complaints
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN
HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD
GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS
WIL: WEBB, SALTER
RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS
GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY
MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD
SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON
IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)
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Re: help with address needed please
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 06 June 09 16:14 UTC (UK) »

his occupation at the time was machine operator at Rotol Limited!!!

might explain something then!

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plimmerian
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Re: help with address needed please
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 06 June 09 16:26 UTC (UK) »

National Service Hostel it is then!?!

Do we agree!

LOL

Thank you - you are stars!

http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1939/1939%20-%200834.html
(Rotol 1939)
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