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susano
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Greetings from Canada!!
I'm not sure if I've posted to the correct board so please let me know.
Does anyone have any idea of what type of uniform these girls are wearing and perhaps venture a guess at the date of the photo?
My late father's cousin recently sent me this photo. He says there are no identifying marks on the photo. My father's cousin is speculating that the photo is of his mother, Katherine Kehoe, b. abt 1889 in Seacombe, Wallasey, and perhaps her sister Annie Kehoe, b. abt. 1892 in Seacombe, Wallasey. The Kehoe girls reportedly received their education at a Catholic Girls School in Seacombe.
We would be most appreciative of any help or information.
Regards,
Susan
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susano
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Thanks, Hippy. Looks great.
Susan
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chinakay
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Hi Susan...is the photo a true black & white, or a sepia scanned in black & white? Everything's a clue...colour, size, shape, backing etc.
Offhand, it would be my opinion that this is not a photo of a girl born in 1889. I'd like to see a colour scan of the whole thing including the outer corners, if possible, and scanned at 300dpi.
The caps do look quite like nursing caps, and the apron-like front of the bodice. Does the girl in back have some kind of rank badge on her collar? Interesting photo, all around 
Cheers,
China
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susano
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Hello China
Unfortunately, I can't answer any of the questions you asked. The photo was just emailed to me as I posted it.
I will ask my dad's cousins the questions you asked though and will post the answers. Hopefully, he has the original and can rescan with the specifications you indicated. He did say that he got it from his nephew so don't know if he meant the original photo or as an email attachment.
We really don't know who the 2 girls are....it is pure speculation that it is the cousin's mother and perhaps aunt.
I find it quite intriguing and would love to learn more.
Regards, Susan
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susano
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Hello
I have heard back from my dad's cousin and unfortunately he does not have the original photo so a rescan will not be possible.
If the woman on the left is his mother Katherine as he speculates, she emigrated to Canada in 1910 and to the US around 1913.
I've tried researching nursing uniforms on the internet and can find caps that are similar to those in this photo but it appears that nurses in the early 1900s wore high collars and the women in this photo had open collars.
Could these possibly be uniforms related to a Catholic school or hospital (if such a hospital existed)?
I'm most curious about this photo and would appreciate any information or suggestions.
Regards,
Susan
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susano
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Hello
I've just had another thought...could these uniforms be of a type worn by domestic servants?
Susan
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susano
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Thanks, China.
I think you're correct that the style is more indicative of a nursing uniform of the 1920s as opposed to the 1900-1910 period. This, of course, would mean that the woman on the left was not my dad's cousin's mother as she was in the US, married and had children by that time.
His mother and her older sister (my grandmother) both emigrated to Canada as domestic servants so that's where I got the idea of that uniform as that was their occupation in the UK before emigration.
I'm very open to any ideas or suggestions anyone may have.
Regards, Susan
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susano
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Hello again
I've just found this photo of Agnes Kehoe, b. abt. 1899. Agnes was the youngest Kehoe daughter, sister to Catherine, Annie and Julia that were previously mentioned.
Does anyone think there is a resemblance between Agnes and the woman in the uniform on the left?
Thanks for any help.
Susan
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susano
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Greetings from Canada
The original photo has been located by a distant cousin in the U.S. and rescanned. He says it's 3 1/4 x 4 3/4, lots of wrinkles and creases and appears to have been glued into a book and then taken out. There was no info on the back. He did magnify the photographer's information in the lower right hand corner and discovered the following information: Northuks (he thinks), 412 Wash. St., Globe Bldg, Portland, Or.
It appears that we have been looking in the wrong country (thought it was from the UK) and really have no idea at this point who the 2 women might be.....very much a mystery!!
I'm still very interested in trying to determine when this photo may have been taken. I'm leaning towards the uniform being something worn by a nurse or nursing aide. Could this be from the WWII era?
Can anyone help me with this please? Any and all ideas would be most welcome.
Thanks.
Susan
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susano
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Oh dear....I rotated the photo and saved before attaching but it didn't work. Not sure what I've done wrong!! Sorry but I'm not sure how to correct this. Help!!
Susan
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oldhippy
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Hope you don’t mind. I’ve given it a clean, keeping to the original colour and rotated it for you. I think someone mentioned a rank badge on the collar. This is nothing more then a mark on the photo.
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susano
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Good morning,
Thank you both for taking the time to look at my photo.
OldHippy -- thank you for rotating the photo and cleaning the women up!! Looks great. I worked with that photo for quite awhile yesterday but couldn't get it to stay right side up....everytime I attached it it went back to the original orientation!!
China -- thank you for your advice about the era. I think I was grasping at straws when I suggested WWII!!
It came as a big surprise to me that it was taken in the US as per the photographer's info in the bottom right corner.
If only we could figure out who the two women are!! The two Kehoe women (Catherine/Kathleen and Julia) who emigrated to Canada around 1910-1912 were marrying and having their children during the WWI years. Catherine/Kathleen married an American prospector Charles Royal Price in Calgary, AB around 1911 and they went to the US a couple of years later. Julia (my grandmother) met and married my Canadian-born grandfather Robert Martin in Spokane, WA in 1913 and moved to Lytton, BC where my father was born in 1914.
I really thought the woman on the left resembled the youngest Kehoe girl, Agnes, b 1900, so posted her picture to see if anyone else thought so too.....unfortunately that posting got no response. I can't place Agnes in the US until the 1950s, but who knows!!
Once again, thank you both. I really appreciate your input on my mystery photo!!
Susan
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