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Charles Stuart McNair
« on: Sunday 07 June 09 22:14 BST (UK) »

I'm trying to find out what happened to my mother's brother who emigrated to Ontario in the 1920's.  We had a couple of letters home, then nothing.  a cousin in Alberta had a letter borrowing money so that he could travel to Alberta to join the NWMP but no-one heard of him again.  I don't know where to start looking as the records are so localised.  I wondered if anyone had come across the name.
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Black,Jones,Todd, Thompson, McDougall, McNair  Liverpool
Black  Ellis    Anglesey
William Kelsall Tait, Elizabeth Filkin Astbury  Staffs
McDougall  Mull, Oban, Greenock
McNair  Fairlie
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Re: Charles Stuart McNair
« Reply #1 on: Monday 08 June 09 04:35 BST (UK) »

Would you have his year of birth, please?

There is a Charles McNair, immigrating to Halifax, Canada in 1925.  He was age 18.

You might find some helpful websites here:
http://www.cyndislist.com/gencan.htm
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Mumford: Essex/Canada          Vaus: Sussex/Surrey      Ovens: Ireland/Canada       Sarge: Yorkshire/Canada      Stuart: Sligo/Canada       Fowley: Sligo/Canada      Ibbotson: Sheffield/Canada       Wakefield: Tuam or Ballinasloe, Ireland       Ellison: Co. Wicklow/Canada       Furnival: Lancashire/Canada       Sullivan: Co. Clare/Canada      Lee/DeJongh: Lancashire       (Surname: Originated/Place Last Lived)
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Re: Charles Stuart McNair
« Reply #2 on: Monday 08 June 09 14:45 BST (UK) »

Hi Phylscot,

Was Charles from Liverpool?  The Charles that Lisa has referred to coming to Canada in 1925 has his grandfather John McDougall listed as his next of kin, then crossed out and lists his father Charles Stewart McNair.  The address is 102 Sydney Rd., Bootle, Liverpool, England.

If this is your Charles, he has come to Canada under the Boys Scheme through the Salvation Army and is headed to Woodstock, Ontario.

Karen
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Ball, Kempson & Franklin - Birmingham
Shorter - Surrey
Dyer - Devon
Dawkins - Co. Cork, Ireland
Heffernan - Ireland
Huck - Alsace, France
Reinhart - Baden, Germany
Bowman & Ellis - England
Etheridge - Glouchester

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Re: Charles Stuart McNair
« Reply #3 on: Monday 08 June 09 14:46 BST (UK) »


You might find some helpful websites here:
http://www.cyndislist.com/gencan.htm


We also have some great references/websites here on rootschat under the Canada Resources board.

Karen
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Heffernan - Ireland
Huck - Alsace, France
Reinhart - Baden, Germany
Bowman & Ellis - England
Etheridge - Glouchester

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Re: Charles Stuart McNair
« Reply #4 on: Monday 08 June 09 19:27 BST (UK) »

Yes this is definitely him.  He was born in Liverpool in 1907 - his father (My grandfather) was also Charles Stewart McNair.  He and his father fell out over a matter of business and he ran away to his Grandfather, John McDougall,  who sorted out a passage for him to Ontario.  We had relatives in Toronto, but he didn't stay with them, and all we heard from him was as I said yesterday.  Thank you very much for your trouble.    Can you point me in a direction to find out more?   Phyl
PS who is on the photo?
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Black  Ellis    Anglesey
William Kelsall Tait, Elizabeth Filkin Astbury  Staffs
McDougall  Mull, Oban, Greenock
McNair  Fairlie
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Re: Charles Stuart McNair
« Reply #5 on: Monday 08 June 09 19:47 BST (UK) »

Hi Phyl,

You should contact the Salvation Army in the UK as they are the ones who sent him to Canada and should have records available.

http://www2.salvationarmy.org.uk/familytracing

You can also try contacting the RCMP for information in the event he did sign up with them.

Here is a link explaining the NWMP which became the RCMP by 1920

http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/hist/archiv-eng.htm

Karen
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Gandley (but known as Stanley in Canada)- Ireland to Birmingham
Ball, Kempson & Franklin - Birmingham
Shorter - Surrey
Dyer - Devon
Dawkins - Co. Cork, Ireland
Heffernan - Ireland
Huck - Alsace, France
Reinhart - Baden, Germany
Bowman & Ellis - England
Etheridge - Glouchester

Who all came to Canada in a little row boat, clap clap, clap your hands!!
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Re: Charles Stuart McNair
« Reply #6 on: Monday 08 June 09 22:52 BST (UK) »

Thank you very much - I'll have a shot.   Phyl
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Black,Jones,Todd, Thompson, McDougall, McNair  Liverpool
Black  Ellis    Anglesey
William Kelsall Tait, Elizabeth Filkin Astbury  Staffs
McDougall  Mull, Oban, Greenock
McNair  Fairlie
McFarlan Greenock
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Re: Charles Stuart McNair
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 27 June 09 19:56 BST (UK) »

Hmmmm....If he severed ties due to anger re: family fallout....I wonder if he might have fibbed about his whereabouts as well?
Here is a Charles Stuart McNair, with father Charles Stuart McNair says first wife Jessie ( I see his mother was Jessie McDougall ) says born ontario around your dates...
 http://genforum.genealogy.com/mcnair/messages/294.html

Was your ancestor an inventor, by chance? If so I also found these
http://www.ipexl.com/directory/APPLICANT_Charles_Stuart_Mcnair.html


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Re: Charles Stuart McNair
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 28 June 09 18:36 BST (UK) »

You wonderful person!  Both of these apply.  My grandfather had a leather company in Liverpool, then Halifax, and he made doctors bags, attache cases and the footballs for Everton! I have checked and the patent office gives the address of his works in Seel Street.  Both the patents are his.

As for the other  - His wives were Jessie McDougall and Elizabeth McCracken (Mother was Geddes).  A little subterfuge here I think! Photos to follow.
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Calvert,Todd, Dumfries-shire
Black,Jones,Todd, Thompson, McDougall, McNair  Liverpool
Black  Ellis    Anglesey
William Kelsall Tait, Elizabeth Filkin Astbury  Staffs
McDougall  Mull, Oban, Greenock
McNair  Fairlie
McFarlan Greenock
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Re: Charles Stuart McNair
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 28 June 09 18:42 BST (UK) »

This is my grandfather with his second wife, Elizabeth McCracken.  Below is his first wife, my grandmother Jessie Mcdougall.  She died when my mother was 3 and Charlie was 5, and they went to live with the McDougall grandparents - father too, until he remarried.  This picture of Mum and Charlie was taken during that time.


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Calvert,Todd, Dumfries-shire
Black,Jones,Todd, Thompson, McDougall, McNair  Liverpool
Black  Ellis    Anglesey
William Kelsall Tait, Elizabeth Filkin Astbury  Staffs
McDougall  Mull, Oban, Greenock
McNair  Fairlie
McFarlan Greenock
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Re: Charles Stuart McNair
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 28 June 09 20:15 BST (UK) »

a more detailed version of the 1927 patent... http://www.wikipatents.com/gb/281066.html

Great photos of them all...the children look so much alike they could have passed for twins...!
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Re: Charles Stuart McNair
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 28 June 09 20:25 BST (UK) »

Look who is listed as a flier under silver badges, altho may be a red herring, could be a descendant?
http://www.sac.ca/index2.php?option=com_docman&task=doc_view&gid=240&Itemid=88

Richmond Hill is in the centre of the York Region North of Toronto ...see listing here:
http://www.canada411.ca/res/9057375427/C-S-Mcnair/38515609/Map.html

or try this email contact ( find  by scrolling down to this information : ERIN SOARING SOCIETY 7 km east of Arthur, ON )
http://www.sac.ca/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=22&Itemid=31
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Re: Charles Stuart McNair
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 28 June 09 20:58 BST (UK) »

I'm having trouble with the soaring club ref - I get into the site but not into the bit about the silver badges - I just get a blank screen.  Any ideas?
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Calvert,Todd, Dumfries-shire
Black,Jones,Todd, Thompson, McDougall, McNair  Liverpool
Black  Ellis    Anglesey
William Kelsall Tait, Elizabeth Filkin Astbury  Staffs
McDougall  Mull, Oban, Greenock
McNair  Fairlie
McFarlan Greenock
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Re: Charles Stuart McNair
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 28 June 09 23:46 BST (UK) »

It is a #%$&*! to load isn't it?
The html version....  http://www.rootschat.com/links/06l0/
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Re: Charles Stuart McNair
« Reply #14 on: Monday 29 June 09 14:14 BST (UK) »

Well done JJ on the patent!! 

Great pictures phylscot, thanks for sharing them.

Karen
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Gandley (but known as Stanley in Canada)- Ireland to Birmingham
Ball, Kempson & Franklin - Birmingham
Shorter - Surrey
Dyer - Devon
Dawkins - Co. Cork, Ireland
Heffernan - Ireland
Huck - Alsace, France
Reinhart - Baden, Germany
Bowman & Ellis - England
Etheridge - Glouchester

Who all came to Canada in a little row boat, clap clap, clap your hands!!
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