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7th son of a 7th son
« on: Thursday 24 February 05 14:18 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Firstly I'd like to thank everyone again for all the help.
I am now on the hunt for some more children for George and Emma Goodman as my hubby's uncle always says he is a 7th son of a 7th son.

The info I have is as follows

George married Emma Collett 20th Jan 1862 in Holy Trinity Kentish Town. from census info I know they had

    Janet           1863 Uxbridge
    Alice             1864 Poplar
1  George         1865 Bermonsey
    Eliza             1866 Bromley Bow
2  David Henry  1867 Harefield
3  George W      1869 Surrey
4  Edmund        1873 Surrey
    Ellen              1878 Surrey
5  Ernest Obid   1880 b St Olave Southwark
   Jack/john        1882 ?
   Alfred             1883 ?
   John              1884 ?
   walter


Any help would be great

Janey
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Henry and Florence ROGERS- my grandparents
Re: 7th son of a 7th son
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 02 March 05 07:29 GMT (UK) »
This seems to be them in 1891 at 13 Gratwick Street, Bermondsey
RG 12/372 folio 120 page 33

All kids born Bermondsey.

Goodman, George 54 Rickmansworth, Leather Currier
Goodman, Emma 52 Harefield, Middlesex
Goodman, George W 22 Carman
Goodman, Edmund 18 Scale Maker(Weigh)
Goodman, Ellen 12
Goodman, Earnest 10
Goodman, Alfred 8
Goodman, John 7

Hope this helps


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Rogers, Rapkin, Phillips - Hammersmith/Fulham/Paddington areas
Worth Bailey, Heapy, Burgess. All Macclesfield Cheshire
Mockridge,West Monkton Somerset
Jenner,Clapham Surrey
Kendrick,Liverpool
Wensley,Somerset

Coleman and Mc Namara from Ennis, Co Clare, Ireland
Blake and Maloney from  Kilbaha Co Clare, Ireland
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Henry and Florence ROGERS- my grandparents
Re: 7th son of a 7th son
« Reply #2 on: Monday 07 March 05 22:56 GMT (UK) »
And in 1901 at 33 Abbey Street Bermondsey

RG13/391 folio 29 page 4



Edmund Goodman 28  Surrey, England Son   Scale maker
Emma Goodman 61  Middlesex, England Wife 
Ernest Goodman 20  Surrey, England Son  Printers labourer
George Goodman 62  Hertfordshire, England Head  Carman
John Goodman 17  Surrey, England Son  Wharf Clerk


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Rogers, Rapkin, Phillips - Hammersmith/Fulham/Paddington areas
Worth Bailey, Heapy, Burgess. All Macclesfield Cheshire
Mockridge,West Monkton Somerset
Jenner,Clapham Surrey
Kendrick,Liverpool
Wensley,Somerset

Coleman and Mc Namara from Ennis, Co Clare, Ireland
Blake and Maloney from  Kilbaha Co Clare, Ireland
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Re: 7th son of a 7th son
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 12 March 05 19:54 GMT (UK) »
Thanks

Can anyone find them in 1861 ?
or is that not available?

Janey
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Goodman, Collett - Middlesex
Payn Everitt- London
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Re: 7th son of a 7th son
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 12 March 05 20:00 GMT (UK) »
Sorry that should read 1871.

Someone already helped me in 1861 but george wasn't married then so no children to help with the search for sons.

1871 would be good if its available anywhere?

Thanks 

Janey
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Healy - Cork
Taylor - Staffs
Taylor, Hurrell, Nichols - Stoke Damerel Devon
Glanville - St Colomb Cornwall
Goodman, Collett - Middlesex
Payn Everitt- London
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Henry and Florence ROGERS- my grandparents
Re: 7th son of a 7th son
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 12 March 05 20:15 GMT (UK) »
Haven't been able to find them in 1871 yet, but here they are in 1881 to narrow the search a little. Looks like I should be searching around Surrey by the look of the kids birth places  Grin


George GOODMAN   Head   M   Male   40   Rickmansworth, Hertford,    Carman     
Emma GOODMAN   Wife   M   Female   41   Middlesex,       
David GOODMAN   Son      Male   14   Middlesex,    Scholar     
Eliza GOODMAN   Daughter      Female   15   Middlesex,    Domestic Servant     
George GOODMAN   Son      Male   13   Surrey,  Errand Boy     
Edmond GOODMAN   Son      Male   9   Surrey,   Scholar     
Ellen GOODMAN   Daughter      Female   2 
Ernest GOODMAN   Son      Male   7 m   


4 Abbey St South. Bermondsey, Surrey,     RG11  Folio   0562 / 14   Page   21

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Rogers, Rapkin, Phillips - Hammersmith/Fulham/Paddington areas
Worth Bailey, Heapy, Burgess. All Macclesfield Cheshire
Mockridge,West Monkton Somerset
Jenner,Clapham Surrey
Kendrick,Liverpool
Wensley,Somerset

Coleman and Mc Namara from Ennis, Co Clare, Ireland
Blake and Maloney from  Kilbaha Co Clare, Ireland
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Henry and Florence ROGERS- my grandparents
Re: 7th son of a 7th son
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 12 March 05 20:41 GMT (UK) »
Found em in 1871,dad had been mistranscribed as Grodman Roll Eyes
living at 2 William Street, Bermondsey. on  RG10/629 Folio:    43  Page:    27 
In the Leather Market area of Bermondsey.


George Goodman 31  Rickmansworth, Hampshire, England Head - a Miller
Emma Goodman 30  Harefield, Middlesex, England Wife 
Janet Goodman 8  Uxbridge, Middlesex, England Daughter
Alice Goodman 7  Poplar, Middlesex, England Daughter
Eliza Goodman 5  Bromley by Bow, Middlesex, England Daughter
David Goodman 3  Harefield, Middlesex, England Son 
George W Goodman 2  Bermondsey, Surrey, England Son

Eliza Gilbert 20  Bermondsey, Surrey, England Boarder 

So far the older ones are all girls-maybe an older boy was with grandma overnight Grin

All the best

Carol


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Rogers, Rapkin, Phillips - Hammersmith/Fulham/Paddington areas
Worth Bailey, Heapy, Burgess. All Macclesfield Cheshire
Mockridge,West Monkton Somerset
Jenner,Clapham Surrey
Kendrick,Liverpool
Wensley,Somerset

Coleman and Mc Namara from Ennis, Co Clare, Ireland
Blake and Maloney from  Kilbaha Co Clare, Ireland
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Re: 7th son of a 7th son
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 12 March 05 21:35 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for all your help.

I think i'm going to have to check parish records to try and prove it.

Janey
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Merrishaw  Toyne - Lincs
Valsler - Kent, London
Healy - Cork
Taylor - Staffs
Taylor, Hurrell, Nichols - Stoke Damerel Devon
Glanville - St Colomb Cornwall
Goodman, Collett - Middlesex
Payn Everitt- London
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Henry and Florence ROGERS- my grandparents
Re: 7th son of a 7th son
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 12 March 05 22:37 GMT (UK) »
Janey

In your list right at the beginning of this request you have
1  George         1865 Bermonsey

Don't seem to see him in later censuses.
He would of course make it 7 boys?
And how many girls- goodness me. I found two boys a handful Roll Eyes
Did he die then,for baby born 1869 to also be called George.

Carol
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Rogers, Rapkin, Phillips - Hammersmith/Fulham/Paddington areas
Worth Bailey, Heapy, Burgess. All Macclesfield Cheshire
Mockridge,West Monkton Somerset
Jenner,Clapham Surrey
Kendrick,Liverpool
Wensley,Somerset

Coleman and Mc Namara from Ennis, Co Clare, Ireland
Blake and Maloney from  Kilbaha Co Clare, Ireland
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Re: 7th son of a 7th son
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 13 March 05 10:22 GMT (UK) »
You're right. what a lot. 16 in all I think but not all of them survived. so I'm thinking there may be a couple of sons along with the 1st George between census that died. Ernest Obid (who I hoped was the 7th but isn't the youngest) had seven sons then one daughter !

This is the largest family I've come across so far but I do have another branch that has 12 siblings !!!

Janey
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Bullock  Bowles - Essex
Merrishaw  Toyne - Lincs
Valsler - Kent, London
Healy - Cork
Taylor - Staffs
Taylor, Hurrell, Nichols - Stoke Damerel Devon
Glanville - St Colomb Cornwall
Goodman, Collett - Middlesex
Payn Everitt- London
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