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Grantham Giddy
« on: Sunday 02 November 08 19:40 UTC (UK) »

Grantham Giddy, a Miller, b1783 at Skidbrook son of John Giddy and Mary Grantam was deported to Australia on the Minerva in 1821. He left behind a large effectively orphaned family for his wife Lucy Broddle (Brodell) died in Alford in 1820.

I think he may well have had another family in Australia for the name Grantham Giddy seems to occur there. He received a pardon on 31 Dec 1836

If anyone comes across the reason for deportation, I would be grateful.

My next trip to Lincoln Archives wont be until spring.

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Jacky
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Re: Grantham Giddy
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 02 November 08 20:02 UTC (UK) »

Hi Jacky

Interesting how he was transported for life but was released after 15 years.  I've seen this sort of thing before, where someone got 14 years but was back home in 7.  We tend to think "half time" is a modern thing.
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Re: Grantham Giddy
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 02 November 08 20:16 UTC (UK) »

Nothing new is there. Given the timing of his wife's death, I do hope he did not bump her off.

This family interests me because of the links to the Maxey's of Louth. Granthams daughter Mary had two illigitimate sons with Thomas Maxey - resulting in the Giddy Maxeys or the Maxey Giddys depending on which record you are looking at. They tend to stick to Maxey for the Census ad Giddy for hatching and Matching.

Thomas Maxeys' father was turnkey at Louth Prison and an adopted descendant Albert Ernest Rowson Maxey was Mayor of Louth I believe five times.

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Jacky
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Re: Grantham Giddy
« Reply #3 on: Monday 03 November 08 19:24 UTC (UK) »

Hi
Grantham Giddy age 38, on 10 March 1821 at Lincoln assizes given transportation for life. the offence origin somercoates office.
This ref will get you the details from Lincs achives.
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Re: Grantham Giddy
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 05 November 08 11:09 UTC (UK) »

Hi

Just a bit more to add to Barry's post. 

http://microsites.lincolnshire.gov.uk/archives/convictsdetails.asp?id=3667

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Re: Grantham Giddy
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 15 November 08 11:03 UTC (UK) »

Hi Jacky

Yes your quite correct. He did have another family in Australia. He married Sarah Ann Haines 27 Jun 1840 at Scots Presbyterian Church in Sydney, NSW, Australia. They had three boys and a girl. All married and the three boys all had lots of little Giddy's.

Sarah is a sister of my wife's Great Grand-father.

Why he was deported I don't know. He was tried at the Assize Court so his crime was serious. I have a copy of his pardon (conditional pardon) but alas it does not state the crime either. He died in 1858 at Camden in NSW and Sarah lived until 1908. She married again on 28 Apr 1859 and had another 5 children. They certainly didn't hang about in those days. It would seem that the done thing was to be married and procreate!

Like you, I would dearly love to know what his crime was.

Cheers for now

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Re: Grantham Giddy
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 15 November 08 14:25 UTC (UK) »

Thank you so much.

I have it on my list for my next trip to Lincoln Archives to see if I can find out more. Unfortunately that won't be until March/ April time.

His crime probably was not so bad - I have come across transportees who had done little more than steal a silver spoon - or more seriously a horse. Times were very tough then and punishments incomprehensible to us now.

His family in Australia were proud enough to continue his name, so he cant have been all bad.

I will let you know what I find out - unless of course a very kind person who is visiting the archives before that beats me to it.

Best regards

Jacky
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Re: Grantham Giddy
« Reply #7 on: Monday 13 April 09 07:36 UTC (UK) »

Hello Jacky.  Might be able to help with some info on Grantham Giggy -- was my great-great grandfather. Our information is thus:-
He was born 9/3/1783 Skidbrooke Cum Salt Fleet Haven died Menangle NSW 26/6/1858. Married 1) Lucy Broddle 27/1/1809 & 2) Sarah Haines 27/6/1840. His crime was horse stealing- sentenced to life- arrived Sydney on convict ship Minerva 16/12/1821.
We have lots of info on his Aussie descendants if you require it -- we are really interested to find out about hist first family.

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Re: Grantham Giddy
« Reply #8 on: Monday 13 April 09 11:42 UTC (UK) »

Brilliant. Would love to know more - if you would e-mail on Moderator Comment - E-Mail Address removed, please use the Private Message Facility I will send you a report of what I know of the English descendants. The descendants of his daughter Mary are particularly interesting.

Jacky



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Arliss, Armstrong, Baker, Borman, Cartwright, Clark, Dixon, Duckering, Everington, Forman, Freshney, Gadsby, Graves, Hatcliffe, Holmes, Jackson, Johnson, Knott, Lacey, Leverton, Lilley, Morton, Oades, Pacey, Priestley, Rickett, Riggall, Rowson, Shaw, Sleaford, Sleight, Smith, Spikin, Taylor, Thacker, Ticklepenny, Tomkins, Tyler, Walton, Ward, Willson, Wood and Wortley.
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Re: Grantham Giddy
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 14 April 09 04:15 UTC (UK) »

Hello Jacky
my brother has contacted you re Grantham Giddy our great great grandfather, I have quite a bit of family tree information for you, and perhaps you can fill in  a few gaps re his life before he was transported. The crime he committed was horse selling as you say not a bad crime, however, the crimes did not have to be very bad for them to be transported, children as young as 9 were transported!!
So please contact me. cheers Julia
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Re: Grantham Giddy
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 14 April 09 07:40 UTC (UK) »

Hello again Jacky.

My sister Julia has contacted you & she is our"guru" on family history & such matters so will leave it all to her.

I'ts really exciting to make a connection with dear old Grantham Giddys first family!! What a strong man he must have been -- 137 days on the ship -- 5 deaths through scurvy on the voyage out -- arrived in Sydney in the middle of January -- hottest month of the year & gang marched ( presumably with leg irons on) to Bringelly about 40kms outside Sydney for assignment. He was assigned to Thomas Hawkins at Bathurst -- so he had to cross the mountains! --anyway Julia will send you all the details.

Our Mother ( born Coral Myree Giddy)  is 90 & still hale & hearty. She is his great grand daughter- amazing when you think that she has great grandchildren of her own.

Await further information with anticipation.

Regards

Dennis

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Re: Grantham Giddy
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 09 June 09 16:15 UTC (UK) »

Hi, I'm a newbie to forums and family research. I live in Derbyshire and have only started to try and trace my family roots a few weeks ago but I have discovered that my great grandmother ada maxey was willliam giddy maxeys daughter. Id love to know more about this family line so I was fascinated to find this discussion about Grantham on the internet. I am planning a visit to Louth in a few weeks time , do you have any pointers on where I should go to find out more.?  Many Thanx Rox
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Re: Grantham Giddy
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 11 June 09 00:00 UTC (UK) »

Well hello and welcome to the wonderful world of family research. I am a decsendant of Grantham Giddy's Australian family so probably cannot help with the information you need. However Jacklin who is also on the grantham Giddy list has quite a bit of information on his English family that he left behind, when he was transported to Australia. Once transport it became very difficult for a convict to get back to England and most remain in Australia and remarried. it was deemed that if in Australia over 7 years you would be legal divorced from your British family and could remarry in Australia, I guess another way to populate a new country. Hopefully Jacklin will respond to your inquiry as I think she is interested in the Maxey family tree. good luck and cheers from Australia
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Re: Grantham Giddy
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 11 June 09 08:38 UTC (UK) »

Hello Australia,
This family research lark has taken over my life!. I keep expecting to find that all my branches are all related in the end.
I have a lovely photo of Ada Maxey and knew my grandpa adored her. He was a very gentle kind man and I am amazed to find out about the history to his family. It brings them alive again doesnt it?. My grandma's brothers emigrated to Australia after the war so I wonder if the Fendley Clevelands ended up marrying into the Giddys. Fascinating aint it?.Hope Jacklin responds soon.
Thanx for replying Rox.
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