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tazzie
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Re: Southfleet records lookup please.
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 08 July 09 21:19 UTC (UK) »



Hello Janie.....

Wow.... you have been busy. That info is fantastic. I have typed them in on the web site so will down load them and have a good look.
£2 ..... Well I always said they had money.
  I need to have a good look at all of this and try to place the people named.

  You are a real STAR.... Smiley
  Best wishes to you

   Tazzie
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Re: Southfleet records lookup please.
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 09 July 09 07:04 UTC (UK) »

Hi Janie

If you get a chance to go back to TNA it would be worth checking the Death Duty registers.

TNA  research guide

Death Duty Records, From 1796

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/RdLeaflet.asp?sLeafletID=107


'They show what happened to someone's personal estate (not freehold) after death; and what it was actually worth, excluding debts and expenses. They can give the name of the deceased, with address and last occupation, the date of the will, the place and date of probate, the names, addresses and occupations of the executors, and details of estates, legacies, trustees, legatees, annuities and the duty paid. They can also give the date of death, and information about the people who received bequests (beneficiaries), or who were the next-of-kin, such as exact relationship to the deceased. Tax was not payable on bequests to people within a closely defined family circle, and as a result the family relationship was often noted in the registers. In 1796, tax was not payable on bequests to offspring, spouse, parents and grandparents. In 1805, the exemption was restricted to spouse and parents. From 1815, only bequests to the spouse were exempt from paying tax. Because the registers could be annotated for many years after the first entry, they can include information such as dates of death of spouse; dates of death or marriage of beneficiaries; births of posthumous children and grandchildren; change of address; references to law suits, cross references to other entries, etc'


There are other Bargrave wills proved locally and held at Canterbury Records Office but not for Southfleet

http://www.kentarchaeology.ac/ekwills_a/series/ekp_p2/ekp_p2n_b.htm


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Re: Southfleet records lookup please.
« Reply #17 on: Friday 10 July 09 18:36 UTC (UK) »

Hi Valda,

Many thanks for the suggestions - I had never thought of checking Death Duty registers, but I will certainly do that when I next go to TNA.  I'm fortunate to only live about 6 miles away from there so I hope to go back in a couple of weeks.  I have only recently discovered it so I'm still finding my way around.  All suggestions on the best places to check out there are very welcome!

Hi Tazzie,

I was so pleased when I found the info you needed- such satisfaction! But I forgot to mention dates! Thomas was 1717-1794, I don't have details on his wife Mary. Their children were: Thomas 1750-1797, John Hope 1751-1828 & his wife Maria 1768-1843 (married 1786 in West Wickham), Anne 1753, Charles 1755 (m Sarah Symonds 1775 St Leonards Shoreditch), Mary 1759 (m John Fryer 1779 St Leonards), Richard 1760, but as yet no date for William. I am wondering whether Thomas (the elder) is actually a Thomas on my tree.  My Thomas is the one which you were checking out at the start, born 1723.  I have no details for him other than his birth in Southfleet Parish Register (on Medway Cityark) so maybe he moved away from the rest of his family in Southfleet or died, or maybe lied about his birth date for some reason. More delving needed! By the way, if you check out the West Wickham MIs some of your Thomas' family are on there.

Best wishes to you both,

Janie.
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