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lesB
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Sweden BDM-Help
« on: Wednesday 10 June 09 04:06 UTC (UK) »

The subject causing me trouble is birth/christening of Johanna Maria, daughter of Anders Svenson (not sure of spelling) and Anna Helena.

Based on info gleaned from certificates I think she was born in 1852 or 53, in Karlshamn, Blekinge Sweden. In case it helps the English translations found on the certificates were " Carlshamn, Kartzhann & Bleking". Her anglicised maiden name in Australia was usually written as "Anderson".

Thinking this would be easy I obtained a film from a local Family History Society only to find no trace of her. The film was described as covering Church Records for births 1850 to 1873 Blekinge, Karlshamn.

Now I'm wondering if this one film could have covered all of the Church records for 23 years? Perhaps it was only for one church or sub-district of Karlshamn?

In the title for the section dealing with the period 1850 to 60 appeared the words:
Landsarkivet & Kyrkoarkiv Church. I believe the first means provincial archive but I’m not sure of the second word.

Would anyone have any knowledge or suggestions that might help me?

Many thanks,

Les
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Deb D
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Re: Sweden BDM-Help
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 10 June 09 05:48 UTC (UK) »

I have also had to try to trace a Swedish Anderson ... and it wasn't easy!  An unexpected difficulty arises if any of her male forebears served in the Swedish Army ... where, apparently, they were allocated new surnames!

My husband's ancestor (not connected to yours, I'm afraid) was the grandson of a fellow who'd served in the Army ... and, whether for some weird security reason, or out of sheer laziness (I'm stumped to know!) ... he was given the new surname Bruhn!  So ... some of his children were known as Bruhn ... and some were known as Anderson; - and then just to confuse things further, some of them changed their names from one to the other, at random times during their lives!  Roll Eyes

I've just searched my e-mail contacts; - thought I had an addy for Halland Genealogical Association, but I can't find it again.  Perhaps if you G**gle it?  They may be able to help, if you haven't already run across them?

PS - If they can't help you, they may be able to help you find someone who can (which is what they did for me)   Smiley
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Re: Sweden BDM-Help
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 10 June 09 10:43 UTC (UK) »

Thank you for your input Deb.
I will look into that site. It is early days and I remember reading that the Church Household Examination records are sometimes a better place to start. Actually, most of the problems in Australia seem to stem from communication between persons I assumed had poor English skills and persons taking down the details, although in some cases the information given would have been given by their children all of whom were born in Queensland.

On one Certificate Johanna's father was recorded as Andus. As this did not seem like a Swedish name I've assumed it should be Anders especially as her only son was so named.

You mentioned the name Bruhn. I lived next door to a family in Sydney with that name in my childhood. The father had married a Saunders
who was related to me on my Paternal Grandmothers side. Sort of a half Cousin I guess? Never thought of the name as being Swedish.

Les

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Re: Sweden BDM-Help
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 10 June 09 11:33 UTC (UK) »

A-HA!  I found it! -

http://www.genealogi.se/halland/efterlys/tack.htm

It's basically a "post a question" website, I think ... but as I said, if they can't help directly, they may be able to suggest someone who can (hint: - look for the little flags, I think they translate Swedish into English!)

Just as an afterthought, have you searched for her Naturalization?  There might be something in the relevant State's archives.
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I live in Sydney, Australia, and I'm researching: -
Powell
Tatham
Dunbar
Dixon
Mackwood
Kinnear
Mitchell
Morgan
Delves
Anderson
lesB
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Re: Sweden BDM-Help
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 11 June 09 01:56 UTC (UK) »

Thanks Deb.

Definitely a site I would never have found. I will post a question.
In answer to  your question re Naturalization I found her husbands cert. in Qld. but I never looked for Johanna's. I guess I thought she would be covered by his. A good suggestion thank you again for your trouble.

Les
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Re: Sweden BDM-Help
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 11 June 09 03:23 UTC (UK) »

No problem, Les - after all the help I've had from RC-ers, it's nice to be able to repay the kindness  Grin
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Dunbar
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Mackwood
Kinnear
Mitchell
Morgan
Delves
Anderson
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Re: Sweden BDM-Help
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 11 June 09 03:46 UTC (UK) »

Well this is all a bit of problem - -I too have an ancestor named Anderson - apparently Christened Frans Willhelm but know since his arrival in New Zealand as William Francis Anderson, born Gottenborg about 1855. On his NZ marriage certificate he sates his father's name as Lars Anderson and his mother as Sophie Charlotte Bergstrom.

I am unsure if he used the English naming traditions when he registered her bu using the name Anderson. Using the traditional Swedish system his name should have been Larsson!

I have been unable to track down anything regarding his birth or of his parents marriage.


I have posted this info under "Sweden" on Roots Chat but so far no one has come up with anything concrete.

Any help would be very much appreciated.

DonL
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Olsen - Norway
Christiansen - Norway
Anderson -Sweden
Bergstrom - Sweden?
Crundwell - Tonbridge Wells.UK
Myers - UK Bradford, Yorks
Wilson -Bradford UK
Byrne - Dublin, Ireland
Miskelly -Belfast, Ireland
McGrevy  (or McGreavy or McGreevy) - Belfast Ireland
Benson
Swanson
Newman
Chrestenson -  capetown, South Africa
Whitmore
St Romain//de St Romain - Reunion
Nozace-Reunion
Lamberg - Sweden
de Silva -Argentina, The Philippines
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Re: Sweden BDM-Help
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 11 June 09 07:05 UTC (UK) »

I can only suggest that you try posting a message on the link above, Don  Smiley

(PS These Andersons are very trying, aren't they!?  My lot aren't connected to yours, either, Don!)
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I live in Sydney, Australia, and I'm researching: -
Powell
Tatham
Dunbar
Dixon
Mackwood
Kinnear
Mitchell
Morgan
Delves
Anderson
DonL
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Posts: 339


Albert Clarence & Rosie Lindale with daughters


Re: Sweden BDM-Help
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 11 June 09 10:36 UTC (UK) »

Many thanks for that. I have now posted a query on that web site.  Let's hope it brings some answers to my jigsaw of our ancestots.

Cheers

DonL
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Lindale/Lindhal/Lindahl - Scandanavia - Denmark
Olsen - Norway
Christiansen - Norway
Anderson -Sweden
Bergstrom - Sweden?
Crundwell - Tonbridge Wells.UK
Myers - UK Bradford, Yorks
Wilson -Bradford UK
Byrne - Dublin, Ireland
Miskelly -Belfast, Ireland
McGrevy  (or McGreavy or McGreevy) - Belfast Ireland
Benson
Swanson
Newman
Chrestenson -  capetown, South Africa
Whitmore
St Romain//de St Romain - Reunion
Nozace-Reunion
Lamberg - Sweden
de Silva -Argentina, The Philippines
DonL
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Posts: 339


Albert Clarence & Rosie Lindale with daughters


Sweden BDM-Help Sophie Charlotta BERGSTROM
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 23 September 09 02:33 UTC (UK) »

Well this is all a bit of problem - -I too have an ancestor named Anderson - apparently Christened Frans Willhelm but know since his arrival in New Zealand as William Francis Anderson, born Gottenborg about 1855. On his NZ marriage certificate he sates his father's name as Lars Anderson and his mother as Sophie Charlotte Bergstrom.

I am unsure if he used the English naming traditions when he registered her by using the name Anderson. Using the traditional Swedish system his name should have been Larsson!
New Information ----

"According to some research undertaken at the Archives Office in Goteberg, Sweden ,Sophie Charlotta Bergstrom  (who died in 1900) was never married and had one child - a  son named Franz Theodore (same birthdate as our Willioam Francis) - father unknown. It is surmised that Franz who was a seaman jumped ship in NZ after leaving Sweden in 1872 and adopted the name of William Francis ANDERSON when he arrived in NZ - probably to avoid being caught.

Any help on finding the parents , siblings and grandparents of Sophie Charlotta Bergstrom would be very much appreciated."


Any help would be very much appreciated.

DonL
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Lindale/Lindhal/Lindahl - Scandanavia - Denmark
Olsen - Norway
Christiansen - Norway
Anderson -Sweden
Bergstrom - Sweden?
Crundwell - Tonbridge Wells.UK
Myers - UK Bradford, Yorks
Wilson -Bradford UK
Byrne - Dublin, Ireland
Miskelly -Belfast, Ireland
McGrevy  (or McGreavy or McGreevy) - Belfast Ireland
Benson
Swanson
Newman
Chrestenson -  capetown, South Africa
Whitmore
St Romain//de St Romain - Reunion
Nozace-Reunion
Lamberg - Sweden
de Silva -Argentina, The Philippines
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