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Mary Crane
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Removal Va ns 1941
« on: Wednesday 10 June 09 04:14 UTC (UK) »

Does anyone know what type of vehicle was used by removalists in Bristol in 1941?

I have a receipt from C. Hawkins & Sons of Bedminster,  for my family moving from Redcliffe to Knowle - and I'm wondering would they have used a horse drawn cart, motor vehicle or what?

Mary
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SOMERSET: Tyte, Millard
BRISTOL: Withers, Taylor, Tanswell, Crane, Newick
ALMONDSBURY, Withers, Gastrell
GLOS:  Heiron, Holbrow, Harmer, Shillam
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Re: Removal Va ns 1941
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 10 June 09 07:24 UTC (UK) »

Mary,

It would take a cart and horse a long time even with a light load.  Bristol to Knowle near Solihull WAR is about 74 miles Grin  That poor horse Cry

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Re: Removal Va ns 1941
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 10 June 09 07:33 UTC (UK) »

Mary,
In 1941 it would have been motor vehicle... if they had a lot of furniture a pantechnicon of sorts- if a little maybe a smaller van or truck.

charlotte
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GILL, Accrington, Blackburn, West Derby, Lancs, migrated USA 1891 to RI: GILL in SC: HOTCHKISS in RI: PELOQUIN in RI 

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Re: Removal Va ns 1941
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 10 June 09 07:42 UTC (UK) »

But Redcliffe to Knowle (in Bristol) wouldn't have been so far Smiley
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knowle,_Bristol

Mary,  did they move to Knowle in Bristol ?
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Re: Removal Va ns 1941
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 10 June 09 07:44 UTC (UK) »

Hi Mary

This site has some old photo's of vans on it, including the sort of removal van's being used in and around your date.

http://ccmv.fotopic.net/c855958.html

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Re: Removal Va ns 1941
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 10 June 09 07:47 UTC (UK) »

Good link  ricky..and answers Mary's question well.

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Re: Removal Va ns 1941
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 10 June 09 08:00 UTC (UK) »

I have been singing "My Old Man said Follow the Van" ever since I saw this post.    Must have been motorised or she would have been able to keep up.
Hope you are not all too young to know that one!
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Re: Removal Va ns 1941
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 11 June 09 01:26 UTC (UK) »

Many thanks to you all for your replies, and to Ricky for the great site.  Yes it looks very much like the 1938 Bedford McArthy's van.  It was Knowle in Bristol - so not that far and incidentally the cost of removal was One pound Seven shillings and Six pence (I have the receipt).

Mary
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SOMERSET: Tyte, Millard
BRISTOL: Withers, Taylor, Tanswell, Crane, Newick
ALMONDSBURY, Withers, Gastrell
GLOS:  Heiron, Holbrow, Harmer, Shillam
LONDON:  Shaw, Vickers
IRELAND/BRISTOL: Gaugharty (and other versions)
YORKSHIRE:  Scothron/Scothorne
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Re: Removal Va ns 1941
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 11 June 09 03:38 UTC (UK) »

Marty,
 Do you know why they moved? and what was the breadwinner's occupation- my curiosity here is knowing what % of his weekly wage would have gone on the removalists bill.   It seems such a small amount now- 

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GILL, Accrington, Blackburn, West Derby, Lancs, migrated USA 1891 to RI: GILL in SC: HOTCHKISS in RI: PELOQUIN in RI 

HUMPHRIES, HILLIER, ALLEN, LYDBURY  Nunney/Frome 18-19C

HUMPHRIES, JOYCE, HEWITT, ROBINSON, McMULLEN, SUFFEL, CARNEY, MARRON, COMPTON, FREEMAN  Ont. Canada 1830+

PILSEN, Sask.

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Re: Removal Va ns 1941
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 11 June 09 04:05 UTC (UK) »

Hi Charlotte

This was my family.  It was during the war and my father was in the Auxiliary Fire Service (having been graded unfit for military service due to an eye defect) so I have no idea of what his wages would have been.  He had been working for a Men's Outfitter in Bristol before the War.  I think there were probably several reasons why they moved - the area was fairly close to Bristol Docks so there was quite a lot of bombing I imagine.  Also, they moved to what was then a fairly new council estate and a more modern house.  In the Langton Street house there was no bathroom or inside toilet.  The whole area has now been demolished unfortunately.

Maybe someone knows how much members of the Auxiliary Fire Service were paid at that time.

Mary
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DEVON: Davey,Simmons,Pow,Vile,Judd
SOMERSET: Tyte, Millard
BRISTOL: Withers, Taylor, Tanswell, Crane, Newick
ALMONDSBURY, Withers, Gastrell
GLOS:  Heiron, Holbrow, Harmer, Shillam
LONDON:  Shaw, Vickers
IRELAND/BRISTOL: Gaugharty (and other versions)
YORKSHIRE:  Scothron/Scothorne
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Re: Removal Va ns 1941
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 11 June 09 04:11 UTC (UK) »

Hi Mary,
Defence of the Bristol Docks would have been a priority , so the move is understandable- and also the bonus of a newish house would have been attractive.

If the AFS moved him they may have picked up the removalist tab. 
I was thinking only how much moving house costs these days...  Shocked

charlotte

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HARGREAVES, HANSON, BAILEY, BURTON, HEWITT, JAGGER, LOCKWOOD, UTTLEY, RUDD, TAYLOR, HOLDEN, SHAW  Halifax / Sowerby/ Southowram 18C+

GILL, Accrington, Blackburn, West Derby, Lancs, migrated USA 1891 to RI: GILL in SC: HOTCHKISS in RI: PELOQUIN in RI 

HUMPHRIES, HILLIER, ALLEN, LYDBURY  Nunney/Frome 18-19C

HUMPHRIES, JOYCE, HEWITT, ROBINSON, McMULLEN, SUFFEL, CARNEY, MARRON, COMPTON, FREEMAN  Ont. Canada 1830+

PILSEN, Sask.

82nd Regt of Foot 1808-1825
1st WRY Militia 1780-1800
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