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nigelrixson
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1901C Mitchell
« on: Wednesday 10 June 09 10:36 UTC (UK) »

Hi,
Can SKS help, please?
This should be straight forward but I cannot find this one.

Lottie May Mitchell, b. 15 Mar 1896 in Edmonton

..but can't find her on the 1901C. I know tht she was still in Edmonton in the 1920s, as the births of her chidlren are registered there
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Re: 1901C Mitchell
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 10 June 09 13:30 UTC (UK) »

Hello, Nigel,

Do you have the birth cert for Lottie May Mitchell ?     If so, what were her parent's names & was there an address shown for her birth ?

The only family I have found so far in Edmonton is one for a Joseph Mitchell, a butcher, age 38 with a wife Kate  age 35 with 3 sons & 1 dau, the two youngest sons John L age 6 & Frederick J. age 1 were born in Edmonton.

I have checked the official 1901 census for both the names Charlotte & Lottie but nothing was found.

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Re: 1901C Mitchell
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 10 June 09 15:27 UTC (UK) »

Thanks Meliora.

Unfortunatley, I dont have her birth certificate. Her death record in 1981 also gives the name Lottie May. So, I've no reason to think that she would have been recorded on the 1901C as 'Charlotte'

A bit of a mystery!
Thanks, though
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Re: 1901C Mitchell
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 11 June 09 07:59 UTC (UK) »

To solve this it is essential to go to basics to find any info that will help looking at the various census. To that end the birth cert will give you her parent's names & possibly an address.    Just because a birth reg. entry states Edmonton it does not mean she was born in Edmonton itself.  The Reg district of Edmonton covers a very large area, I myself was born in Tottenham but my birt cert. reads district Edmonton, sub district Tottenham.

Reg District Edmonton,
sub districts.....Cheshunt, Enfield, Hornsey, Tottenham, Waltham Abbey.
adjoining disricts
Barnet, Epping, Hackney, Hatfield, Islington, Pancras, West ham.

Birth
Lottie May Mitchell
June ¼ 1896  Edmonton  3a  467

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Re: 1901C Mitchell
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 11 June 09 09:20 UTC (UK) »

Hi

I was going to say what Mel said about the areas mentioned on birth certificates. They also take in other small villages around the area and put them under one borough.
If you find out that her parents were called John and Ellen, I did find them on the 1901 census but she is mentioned as May aged 3 and she has a sister called Charlotte aged 1.
Maybe Charlotte died and they called her Lottie again as it would have been a mouthful to be calling out for Charlotte and Lottie at the same time.
If it is your Lottie then her parents were both born in Norfolk and at the time of the 01C were living in Tottenham which is next door to Edmonton. 
Hope this is your Lottie
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Re: 1901C Mitchell
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 13 June 09 19:05 UTC (UK) »

Hi,
I managed to get the birth certifictae details. Lottie Mays parents were George and Mary Ann Mitchell (nee Skeggs). So, I should have something to work on now.

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Re: 1901C Mitchell
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 14 June 09 09:16 UTC (UK) »

A couple of answers, please, Nigel

What was George Mitchell's occupation ?

Was any address shown on the birth cert ?

Have had a quick look at the 1901 for a family of George & Mary Ann, all counties but so far nothing found.

Answers to the above may help.

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Re: 1901C Mitchell
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 14 June 09 09:27 UTC (UK) »

This might help,

Marriage
George Mitchell =  Mary Ann Skeggs
Jun  ¼   1886  Hackney   1b  737

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Re: 1901C Mitchell
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 14 June 09 10:04 UTC (UK) »

Have found an 1891 census entry for a family George & Mary Ann Mitchell in West Ham, also the same family in the 1901 census with five chilrdren but no Lottie May, altho' there is a gap in the last two children's ages that could possibly take a child born 1896.

This George Mitchell's occupation 1891 is Locomotive Engine Driver, born Twickenham, 1901 , Railway Engine Driver, born Twickenham. born circa 1859

Does this conform to George's occupation  on Lottie's birth cert ?

In both census living next door is a William Mitchell, 1891 a Railway Fireman, 1901, an Engine Driver born circa 1866  Southend.

I can send transcripts of you think this is your George & Mary Ann.

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Re: 1901C Mitchell
« Reply #9 on: Friday 19 June 09 09:03 UTC (UK) »

Still waiting for tht info to arrive.

What is known is tht Mary Ann Catherine Skeggs (m= George Mitchell) was the eldest of 5 known siblings to George Skeggs (b.1842 Tottenham) and Maria Wills (b.1841 Holborn). They are at 15 Love Lane, Tottenham on the 1871C (RG10/1339 F77 P37) and on the 1881C (RG11/1380 F122 P21). Maria isn't on the 1881C as she died Dec 1880.
George re-marrys, Ellen Risley in Hackney in 1882. He dies in 1907 in Hackney.

But I can't find him/Ellen on either the 1891C or 1901C. I've tried all variations but the Genealogist doesn't give me the details

Can SKS, take a further look at this, please?
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Re: 1901C Mitchell
« Reply #10 on: Friday 19 June 09 11:15 UTC (UK) »

1891 census
RG12/1081  folio 49  page 34
2, Alpha Place  Edmonton

indexed as Sheggs

George Skeggs   head  age 50   Painter  b  Edmonton
Ellen  wife   age  36     b   ditto
Ann  dau  age 20  Factory hand  b  Tottenham
Emily  dau  age 9     b  Edmonton
John  son  age 6    b  Tottenham
Ernest  son  age 3     b   ditto
Arthur  son  age 2    b  Edmonton.

So fay, no trace of this family found in the 1901 census under Skeggs or variations but there is t his entry for an Arthur Skeggs

1901 census
RG13/1664   folio 102  page 15
Hackney Union  Training School

Arthur Skeggs  age 13.  b.  N K

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Re: 1901C Mitchell
« Reply #11 on: Friday 19 June 09 12:36 UTC (UK) »

Meliora, yr brilliant
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