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Lumsden-Beveridge Marriage, Leslie, Fife *COMPLETED, THANK YOU*
« on: Monday 08 June 09 14:07 UTC (UK) »
I've just discovered my last SP credits have expired!  Cry

Please, would anyone be able to look up the marriage of Elizabeth Lumsden and John Beveridge?

The date I have is 19/12/1849 ... although their son John seems to have been born in either 1843 or 1846.  This is where I get confused, because apart from the 1851 Census which gives John Jr as born in 1843, the records I've found for his birth and his parents' marriage ... were submitted ones on the IGI, and I know better than to put my trust in submitted records.

Incidentally, ... I'd also be huuuuuugely grateful to find out whether the records note the parents of the bride and groom  Kiss
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Re: Lumsden-Beveridge Marriage, Leslie, Fife
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 11 June 09 07:38 UTC (UK) »
Hi Deb

I looked up the index for the marriage but as it is an OPR I didn't download it as usually they don't give much more info

19/12/1849 BEVERIDGE JOHN and ELISABETH LUMSDEN at Leslie (Fife) /FIFE


No BAPTISMS showing for any children to them
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Re: Lumsden-Beveridge Marriage, Leslie, Fife
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 11 June 09 07:54 UTC (UK) »
Elizabeths death record should give her parents names

1889 BEVERIDGE ELIZABETH   m.s. LUMSDEN aged 72 LESLIE /FIFE
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Re: Lumsden-Beveridge Marriage, Leslie, Fife
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 11 June 09 10:03 UTC (UK) »
Thank you, sancti - gives me some solid ground to work from now.  Will have to save some pennies for a few more birth/marr/death certs, I think   Kiss
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Re: Lumsden-Beveridge Marriage, Leslie, Fife
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 11 June 09 13:26 UTC (UK) »
Hi DebD

Had a quick look at the Helen's death cert and these are the details:

Helen Beveridge.
Died 28 May 1889.
Cause of death - Vascular disease of the heart/Bronchitis.
Parents :        William Lumsden        Flaxdresser
                       Janet Lumsden     ms.  Lyall                  Both deceased.

Gros No.  444/00 0029


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Re: Lumsden-Beveridge Marriage, Leslie, Fife
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 11 June 09 13:49 UTC (UK) »
Oooh, Christine ~  I don't have a Helen  Huh  Do you know something I don't know LOL?

I do know from the 1851 Census that Elizabeth Lumsden (b. 1817) had either a much-younger sister, or a niece Janet (b. 1828) ... but I don't know whether she had any other siblings.
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Re: Lumsden-Beveridge Marriage, Leslie, Fife
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 11 June 09 14:06 UTC (UK) »
Hi Deb

If you do a parent search on IGI, you will see that potential parents for Elizabeth show as William Lumsden and Janet Lyle (lyall etc) and a number of siblings including a sister Janet showing as born in 1828 which would fit with the Janet Lumsden who shows in the household in 1851 as 'sister in law'. All births in Leslie.

Christine, did you make a mistake by writing Helen instead of Elizabeth perhaps?

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Re: Lumsden-Beveridge Marriage, Leslie, Fife
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 11 June 09 14:18 UTC (UK) »
I think from reading your other post on the family that your line is daughter Janet b. 1851. This looks to be a post from descendents on her brother William b. 1856:

http://boards.ancestry.com/thread.aspx?mv=flat&m=3998&p=localities.britisles.scotland.fif.general

Might be good to compare notes  Smiley

Regarding the eldest brother John who shows as born in 1843, I can only think that perhaps he was born to either father John or Elizabeth from maybe a first marriage (or illegitimate child to Elizabeth) not that I can see anything to prove that at this stage!

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Re: Lumsden-Beveridge Marriage, Leslie, Fife
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 11 June 09 15:10 UTC (UK) »
Hi Deb/Monica

Sorry

Got 'Helen' on the brain at the moment.  Been searching for one all morning.

It is most definately Elizabeth Beveridge.

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Re: Lumsden-Beveridge Marriage, Leslie, Fife
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 11 June 09 15:17 UTC (UK) »
Hi Christine

Thought it might be so  Smiley Happens to me more than once after a day's searching  Tongue That's great, helps to tie in with what shows on IGI.

John Beveridge, son of John and Elizabeth, looks to have likely married an Elizabeth Currie in 1869 in Fife. This looks like them in the 1871 census - as transcribed:

John Beversdyr 28, Power Loom Tenter, b. Leslie
Elizth Beversdyr 26, b. Leslie
John Beversdyr 1, b. Dysart
Christian Beversdyr 1 month, b. Dysart
Christian Currie 24, lodger, b. Leslie

Address: Cupar Road East Side, Dysart Fife

The family also show in Dysart in 1881 with a couple more children: James b. 1873 and William 1866.

The marriage cert would let you confirm parents' details.

Deb, can't see any more living children for them other than John, Janet and William.

John Beveridge Snr. still shows as alive and living in Leslie in the 1881 census, so death for him after this date.

Monica

Added: In fact John Snr. is alive and well, living alone in Leslie up to the 1901 census  Smiley
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Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
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Re: Lumsden-Beveridge Marriage, Leslie, Fife
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 11 June 09 22:45 UTC (UK) »
Dear Christine and Monica - thank you soooooo much!

Yes, my line sprouts from Janet, who married Alexander Baird.  Seems it wasn't "frowned upon" to have a child or two before marriage - I have a number of such, in my tree.  Whether the children all "belonged" to the fellow who married their mother, however .... I'll probably never know!  It's only the odd one for whom I've found an Aliment Decree, whose more-likely ancestors I can try to trace.

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