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I realise that this is a very long shot as the building is obviously old and so is the photograph but does anyone know where this might have been?
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c-side
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I've tried historical directories - it's the only site I know - but the most recent directory for Cornwall is 1914 and nothing shows up on that one.
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WiggyHobbes08
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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It looks like a photo we took in Tintagel many years ago - but not as many ago as this as this photo!!  (Sorry, just interested!)
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Gaunt, Ransom, McNally, Stanfield, Kimberley. (Tasmania Australia)
Brown, Johnstone, Cumming, Cunningham, Crawford, Jack (Dumfriesshire, Lanarkshire, Scotland)
Percy, Dunning, (Devon, England)
Convicts of First/Second Fleet.
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c-side
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Hi guys,
Alice Patterson (she of Cooper and Patterson) was my grandmother's sister, born in 1886. I borrowed the photo, along with loads of others, from my cousin after her mum died a few months ago and have finally scanned and stored them all.
I remember this great aunt but only vaguely as I was very young - only learned that she had a cafe when I saw the photo. I'll see if I can find out any more.
Tintagel - that's always a possibility. Perhaps it would be sited where there were tourists.
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Little Nell
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Patterson is not an obviously Cornish name! I tend to associate it with Scotland. Where was Alice born? And is Patterson her maiden name or was she married?
I don't think this is Tintagel - the building's roof is pantiled, not slate. Tintagel is in the heart of the slate industry area. Most buildings there have slate roofs.
Also the window frames are remarkably straight and quite large in size if this were a very old building.
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c-side
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Hi Nell,
These Pattersons originated in Norfolk. There's not too many of them there, either but you wouldn't believe the problems I have tracking them down (actually you probably would - that's why we're all on here, isn't it).
They moved to Northumberland when Alice was young and I'm not sure how she got down to Cornwall. She never married but lived with her friends Mr. and Mrs. Cooper (we have often wondered.... ).
I need to have another chat with my cousin who gave me the photo - she's older and can remember more.
Christine
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deb usa
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I tried National Archives with no luck, also Patterson's from Cornwall in 1901 census.
Snap on all your questions Fizzy
another question ............ what was a "cafe' in those days? was it a store/shop or was it like our coffee shops .... I see 'stuff' in the windows....
Great picture ...wish I had one like it.
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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton, Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans
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c-side
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Hi All,
Yes, Fizzy, she was Alice May Patterson - where did you find that?
Parents James and Ellen Gertrude (nee Mills)
Father's last occupation - labourer - died 1908 in Northumberland
I can only see one likely contender in 1911 and that one is in Northumberland - there are none in Cornwall.
Looking at the windows, Deb, I think maybe the one with the stuff in might belong to next door.
I'm wondering if the writing either side of 'The Cafe' might give some info but it's not too clear. Maybe if I get the original back from my cousin it would show up with a magnifying glass but it is a bit blurred.
Christine
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deb usa
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Hi Christine
Why not post the photo on the photo/restoration boards ...they may be able to clear up the writing and see all kind of clues we cannot see, they are fab over there ....really ....
Did your Pattersons marry into the Cooper family?
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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton, Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans
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c-side
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Hi Deb,
It's a thought. I posted this photo here on an impulse and each time I look at it I wish I'd waited. I have now 'mended' the tears and removed the pen mark but my software is just standard photoshop stuff and this would need something which would sharpen images much more than mine will - if one exists.
My cousin in currently in Spain so I will have to wait a couple of week to have a look at the original.
Christine
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