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johnbarr
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Street Family - Completed thanks
« on: Thursday 11 June 09 11:14 BST (UK) »

Greetings from NZ  Smiley

I'm trying to trace a George Street, possibly b. 23 Sep 1854 at Nettlebed, Oxfordshire. His parents were Thomas Street and Mary Ann Street born Barrett.

It's a difficult name to research as any search results in all the Streets/Roads in the County! Shocked

I have tried FreeBMD and Ancestry without luck (so far).
The details I have were found on a note written by an aged relative, but the details seem fairly precise so I'm reluctant to discard this possible lead.

He married in NZ in 1896, so I was hoping to find him in at least 1861 UK Census, but no luck there either.

Thanks for any help
John B
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Re: Street Family
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 11 June 09 11:43 BST (UK) »

This looks the most likely I can see for his birth

Jul/Aug/Sep 1854
Henley ref 3a 432
George Street

So a birth cert would confirm parentage, give mums maiden name, address where he was born, dads occupation etc

I cant see a Street/Barrett marriage in Oxfordshire, nor a Thoams/Mary Ann on 1851
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Re: Street Family
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 11 June 09 11:59 BST (UK) »

Cant see him in 1861

This look like him in 1871 (or at least the one born Oxfordshire 1854)

RG10 1404 159 21
Westhope Little Marlow Bucks

George Street 17 lodger Ag lab bn Shodton? Oxon

in h/h of a Bowgate family with other lodgers
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Pennie
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Re: Street Family
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 11 June 09 12:31 BST (UK) »

I also just found that 1871 census entry!  The birthplace has been mistranscribed as "Spaden", but image reads "Ipsden".

There are no STREETs living  in Nettlebed on the 1861 census, but they can be found in Ipsden (although no sign of George).

However, this 1861 census entry could be mum and the children:

Henley Union Workhouse
M A STREET - unmarried - 25 - Almswoman/Ag Lab - b. (Peppard?)
T STREET - 10 - Scholar - b. (Grays?)
G STREET - 7 - b. Henley
C STREET - 4 - b. Ipsden

I think that the birthplaces for the first two could refer to Rotherfield Peppard and Rotherfield Greys (both close to Ipsden/Nettlebed).

It's interesting that the mother is recorded as unmarried, as I've found absolutely no record of a marriage between Thomas STREET and Mary Ann BARRETT.  Also no death of a Thomas STREET in Oxfordshire between 1856 and 1861 - perhaps he just left them?

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jillruss
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Re: Street Family
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 11 June 09 12:40 BST (UK) »

FreeBMD have the following birth:

George Street  Sep Q 1854 Henley 3a 432

Nettlebed was part of the Henley Registration District, so this looks like your chap.

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Re: Street Family
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 11 June 09 12:49 BST (UK) »

Further checking reveals no obvious entries for Thomas, Mary Ann, Thomas jnr. or Charles (together or apart) on the 1871 census.

Also no obvious death records for Thomas or Mary Ann. 

Could they have gone to NZ between 1861 and 1871 (leaving George behind) and he then followed them?

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Re: Street Family
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 11 June 09 18:11 BST (UK) »

I've just looked at the Ipsden PR transcript - courtesy of OFHS.

Whilst there is at least one STREET family baptising children around 1854, there is no sign of George.

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Re: Street Family
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 11 June 09 18:15 BST (UK) »

The Nettlebed PR transcript is on the same CD...

Absolutely no STREETs being baptised up to 1853 (when the transcript finishes  Angry)

No George in Henley St Mary or Henley Holy Trinity.   I suspect you are going to have to buy the cert to see whether it is your man.

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Hampshire: Noakes
Norfolk: Fox, Spencer, Wilkins
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jillruss
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Re: Street Family
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 11 June 09 18:30 BST (UK) »

As the 1861 census had him born in Henley, I checked Henley PRs as well - both St Marys & Holy Trinity - he's not there either.

Looks like you'll have to send for the birth certificate.

It does seem from the 1861 census that Mary Ann was unmarried - if Thomas had died, surely she would have described herself as a widow, and if he had just tootled off and left them, she would still have been 'married'. Unless, of course, they never married & she just called herself Street for convenience, but never was!!

By the way, I sympathise with the difficulties in searching for Street - I have Bishop in my tree and, not only do I end up with all the Bishops (as in Bishop of York etc)) there ever were, wherever they were, but, round here there are lots of villages with the word Bishop in them (Bishop Burton etc), so I get a double whammy!!  Grin

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John Frith mge to Fanny, Bucks? c 1798
Bathsheba Boothroyd bp W Yks c1802
John Bishop bp E Yks c1758
Joseph Symonds mg to Sarah, prob Berks c 1735-40
John Horwood mg to Martha, Berks c 1735-40
Sarah Sculler bp  Berks area c 1675
Paul Phillips bp  Berks/Bucks c 1720
William Newell bp Berks/Bucks/Oxon c 1765
Richard Troughton mg to Jane, Westmoreland c 1732
Mary Simon bp Shrops c.1795
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Re: Street Family
« Reply #9 on: Friday 12 June 09 12:37 BST (UK) »

Sympathies here too
You would have thought Edmonds/Edmunds was easy - but not till you see pages and pages of all and sundry going on in Bury St Edmunds that comes up on any search!!
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johnbarr
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Re: Street Family
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 13 June 09 00:12 BST (UK) »

Many Thanks for all the helpful replies. Smiley
Looks like it may not be an easy one - but we all love a challenge, hey Huh

Looks like we're going to have to spend some money to get further ahead Sad
I think it will be quicker for me to order a Death Cert here in NZ, to try and gain a little more information before seeking a Cert from UK.

Any other suggestions welcomed.
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Pennie
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Re: Street Family
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 13 June 09 11:52 BST (UK) »

Personally, I would go for the birth certificate option - you can order online with a credit card at http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/.

Pennie
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