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trish1120
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Re: Clayton Family of Tupton
« Reply #15 on: Friday 12 June 09 13:19 UTC (UK) »

1861 Census
213 Woodhouse Rd
Mansfield,Notts         RG9/2428/23/39

William MARLEY,head,m,41,wholesale brewer
Sarah Marley,wife,m,39
William Marley,son.unm,4
HARRIET LUCAS, Servant, unm, 20, Cook, born Blidworth
+ 2 other servants
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Re: Clayton Family of Tupton
« Reply #16 on: Friday 12 June 09 13:56 UTC (UK) »

Hi Betton,

Ecneps has passed on family tree info so I am just trying to fill in gaps or add to the Tree;

Mary FREEMAN, christened 08 November 1807, Mansfield, parents John and Mary.

Mary has daughter Eliza Freeman aged 20 on 1851 Census with her and I presume she was illegitimate + children with Richard Clayton including Joseph born 1838.
Strangely Richard NEVER appears on census with them. Will look for him later.

Yes she was illeg.
Eliza FREEMAN, 18 July 1830,Upton by Southwell Notts, Mother Mary Ann Freeman


1851 Census
40 Ratcliffe Gate
Mansfield,Notts

Mary Ann CLAYTON,head,mar,39,charwoman,
Eliza Freeman, daug,unm,20,factory girl, Southwell Notts
Joseph CLAYTON,son,unm,13, besom maker
Elizth Clayton,daug,unm,11,factory girl
Frederick Clayton,son,unm,9,scholar
All born Mansfield except Eliza


By 1861 Mary Ann is a Widow, so Richard has died. Unable to find a conclusive Census for him 1841/1851/1861 Huh
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Re: Clayton Family of Tupton
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 13 June 09 10:44 UTC (UK) »

i have managed to get a little on the Hallowes connection. i have found Maud M with parents Thomas and Mary Hallowes, Living in Tupton. But lose her parents as a couple in 1871

Here's 1871 census, two families living in same household

1871 RG10  Piece  3609 Folio  44  Page  7
Derby Road, Tupton
William ELLIOTT head wid 70? Nail Maker   Kilbourn
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Thomas  HALLOWS head m 35 Carpenter  Woodthorpe
Mary           "           wife  m 31                    Chesterfield
Sarah J       "           dau        4                    Tupton
Maud M       "             "          1                    Tupton

Possible marriage, and maybe Sarah is her sister:
Dec 1865   Chesterfield    7b   1024
HALLOWS    Thomas  and on same page:
JEFFERY Isaac Elisha
WRAY    Mary
WRAY    Sarah


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Re: Clayton Family of Tupton
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 13 June 09 10:56 UTC (UK) »

1861   RG9 Piece 2531 Folio 16 Page 26
Grassmoor, Hasland, Derbys

Elizabeth WHITE head wid 60  Grocer &c     b. not known
Sarah Jane  "  granddau     16                      Tupton
Eliza Ellen    "       "                  8                            "
William GILBERT boarder unm    20 Engine Feeder Colliery    Bolsover
Thomas HALLOWS   "      unm 22  Carpenter Jour. (journeyman)  Tupton

next household, may be connected   

Joseph WHITE  head m  32 Landed Proprietor   Woodthorpe
Mary       "        wife   m  31                             Woodthorpe
Charles   "        son         5  Scholar                      "
Thomas Hallows WHITE son 3  Scholar     Hasland
George WHITE   son   1                        Hasland
Eliza HALLOWS visitor sister in law unm 21  Visitor  Woodthorpe
   
marriage Dec 1854   Chesterfield    7b   973   
 HALLOWS    Mary   and on same page  WHITE  Joseph   
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Re: Clayton Family of Tupton
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 13 June 09 11:07 UTC (UK) »

all this needs to be confirmed with certs of course  Smiley
still not with parents in 1851

1851 HO107 Piece  2147  Folio 284  Page  10
Tupton, Woodthorpe, Derbys

HALLOWS
William   head  unm 19 Wheelwright
Mary       sister   "    21
Thomas  brother     13  Scholar
Eliza       sister         11      "
Samuel   brother       8       "


1841  HO107 Piece 196 Book 17   Folio 6  Page 6
Woodthorpe, North Wingfield,  Derbyshire

Saml LONGDEN     83  Ag. Lab.
Thos HALLOWS    37  Carpenter
Mary      "                36
Mary      "                11
Willm     "                9
Thos      "                 4
Eliza      "                   2
all born in county


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Re: Clayton Family of Tupton
« Reply #20 on: Saturday 13 June 09 16:16 UTC (UK) »

ok.....

Millicent may wood was the daughter of John Richard and Mary Ellen (we think formerly smith)
According to mum there was loads of siblings
Ruby, Ivy, Henry, stanley, Gladys, Geoffrey and Ken.
The oldest being either Ruby (sounds too modern to me Huh )
and Henry
We don't know where John richard Hails from but... Mary Ellen was from Tupton. Hope this helps
Betton
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Re: Clayton Family of Tupton
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 13 June 09 18:22 UTC (UK) »

marriage Sep 1907  Chesterfield    7b   1614
SMITH    Mary Ellen   and on same page   WOOD    John Richard        

1911 index shows a John Rch WOOD b.1880 with a Mary Ellen WOOD b. 1883 she was born Tupton, a Stanley 1908 and Gladys Eva 1910 so you may like to look at the full image
I couldn't see a Ruby - that's not a modern name, by the way!

Will have a look for the parents in 1901

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Re: Clayton Family of Tupton
« Reply #22 on: Monday 15 June 09 10:18 UTC (UK) »

Good Morning!
ok.. the story so far  Grin
John richard wood Married Mary Ellen Smith....

John Richard was the son of Walter Wood and Ann - i have found them on the 1901 Census Living at Shortland, Belper.
Walter was born c.1854 in Horseley Derbyshire, his wife ann his wife in 1851 Belper - they had7 children on this census ranging from william born Belper 1876 to Arthur born 1900 in belper.
not looked for him in 1911 yet - i'm really hoping no more children!

Mary Ellen Smith's Parents were Francis Smith (aka Frank) and millicent Formerly MUSSON
i have managed to find them in 1901 living in Barracks row, Ashover, Derbyshire
Frank was born in 1862 in Walton Derbyshire , his occupation was a stonemason and his wife was Millicent and she was born in Mansfield 1864

"Maryellin" aged 17 born in Tupton, Their next child was maned as "Greshom" - what a great name!(i would love to find somthing about him! he was born1885 in Tupton there was also George henry (1890Tupton) Frank (1898 Ashover) Ann (1894 Ashover) and little Edward (1900 Asover) - not anything more on them yet


i have census details noe for Frederick Clayton in 1911 - 1901 - 1891 - 1881 to make the full set
but need to get my ship in order for his wife
Will keep looking
thanks for everything
Sonja
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Re: Clayton Family of Tupton
« Reply #23 on: Monday 15 June 09 10:34 UTC (UK) »

Hi Sonja,

Well done!  You seem to have almost got your family history sorted in just a few days  Grin

Greshom?  1911 index lists him as GERSHOM
He's listed twice in the GRO birth index as Gershom so maybe when it was originally transcribed they couldn't read the page number

birth reg: March Qu 1885  Chesterfield    7b   718 or 708
SMITH    Gershom      

1891 census RG12 Piece 2757 Folio 24 Page 11
Ashover
SMITH
Francis     29 Stone Mason    Walton
Millicent     27                          Tibshelf
Mary E      7 Scholar               Tupton
Gurshem   6      "                         "
Fanny S     4                           Ashover
Francis W  2                              "
George H  3months                   "
   
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Re: Clayton Family of Tupton
« Reply #24 on: Monday 15 June 09 10:39 UTC (UK) »

Marriage registration
Mar 1912 Chesterfield  7b  934
PLANT  Sarah A  to  SMITH Gersham

If you enter births, & Smith and Plant surnames and Chesterfield on freebmd
it comes up with 12 children, but they may not all be to your couple, could be another Smith/Plant marriage in the area  Smiley
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Re: Clayton Family of Tupton
« Reply #25 on: Monday 15 June 09 10:51 UTC (UK) »

Fantastic result Grin

Well done Ecneps and Betton39.

All the best,
Trish
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Re: Clayton Family of Tupton
« Reply #26 on: Monday 15 June 09 11:04 UTC (UK) »

take some of the credit, Trish  Cheesy

Sonja, can you just say what else you need now in the way of census or bmd lookups?

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Re: Clayton Family of Tupton
« Reply #27 on: Friday 19 June 09 11:56 UTC (UK) »

 I need to spend a few days arranging my notes - things moved too quick - i'm still spinning! - you two girls are the best!

It struck me as odd - that we haven't had the appearence of Richard on any of the census records. Huh
So he was either....  Living with someone else (and had another family on the side)  Embarrassed,  was in the forces ... or on his majesty's pleasure on a regular occurence!!
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Re: Clayton Family of Tupton
« Reply #28 on: Friday 19 June 09 12:17 UTC (UK) »

Marriage; have we got this yet Huh

Richard CLAYTON
September 1837
Mansfield 15 550
On same page Mary Ann FREEMAN

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Re: Clayton Family of Tupton
« Reply #29 on: Friday 19 June 09 12:33 UTC (UK) »

How lucky it just creeps into civil registration, that cert must be worth buying!

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