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Keith Sherwood
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Re: Zebulum Ayres
« Reply #30 on: Friday 29 May 09 19:04 UTC (UK) »

Redroger et al,
I've managed to get to the CCRO this afternoon for a swift hour, and could find no trace of your Zebulum, not to say that he didn't exist or that his registration of birth and/or death doesn't still exist somewhere so far unlooked at...
However, after I'd copied down as many sightings of the AYRES family in Nonconformist registers, I had a quick look through the parish chest for Bottisham, and discovered under reference P13/15/28:
Order of filiation for William AYRES for a child of Ann MOTT 10-10-1828.
Now wasn't your Absolom known as "Mott" and wasn't a cottage your AYRES family lived in called MOTT's cottage?  An interesting one that.
The register for the Bottisham Lode Baptist Chapel only has records between 1809 and 1836, and there were absolutely no AYRES entries at all.  However, there's a recently transcribed Cambs Non-Conformist collection 2 (in fact centring on the Isle of Ely) and I had a good trawl through those - will post them after I've had something to eat,
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Re: Zebulum Ayres
« Reply #31 on: Friday 29 May 09 20:36 UTC (UK) »

Absolom Ayres my great uncle was indeed known as Mott, and there is a cottage in Lode known as Mott's cottage where I understand from his son Bernard, via my late mother about 9 years ago. It is possible indeed perhaps likely that the name preceeds my great uncle by around 60 years or possibly longer. Maybe a Rootschatter knows something! Look forward to the posting of the Non conformist info Keith.
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Child of William Ayres & Ann Mott
« Reply #32 on: Friday 29 May 09 21:28 UTC (UK) »

I have on my tree for William & Ann nee Mott Ayres:

William Ayres
Birth:    11 Aug 1828
Bottisham Lode, Cambridgeshire, England

William & Ann married 11 Dec 1828 so I guess this must be the child referred to in Bottisham ref: P13/15/28

I have 3 records  of Ayres having Mott either as part of their name or a nickname:

William Ephraim known as Billy Mott Ayres 1867-1955
Alfred Mott Ayres 1869-1947
Absolum Ayres known as Mott 1884-1906

There is also an American version:
Mott Ayres 1871 - 1917 Obion Co., TN.
only son of S. B. Ayres, a prominent citizen of Obion Co.  & Mary (Marie) Mott, who were married about 1870 in Obion Co.
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Re: Zebulum Ayres
« Reply #33 on: Friday 29 May 09 22:18 UTC (UK) »

Redroger,
Right, it's been difficult getting back on our (shared) laptop, but here are all the AYRES/AYERS entries I found in those Nonconformist Registers.  It may be that none of them pertain to your family, but at least by putting them on here, they can be looked at by anyone with an interest in the family in Cambs...
So, at Cambridge Castle Street Methodist (passed it on my way up to the CCRO today!):
A baptism on 09-12-1877 for Ernest Alfred AYRES son of Geo William and Louise of 16, Newmarket Rd., Cambridge, grocer.

At the Ely Wesleyan:
Baptism on 08-06-1847: William AYRES son of Ralph and Ann of Oxlode Downham.  Born 30-04-1847
Then an amazing eight-fold baptism of the children of Matthew and Elizabeth AYRES of Dairy Houses, Littleport on 18-06-1849.
Sarah Ann born 26-06-1834
Matilda born 18-09-1835
Matthew born 01-12-1836
William born 15-08-1838
Joseph born 24-04-1841
James born 14-12-1841 (?)
Abraham born 24-09-1843
Elizabeth Ann born 05-10-1848

Might this have been some kind of family baptismal world record...!
Then on 18-02-1850: Baptism of Mary Ann (born 19-01-1850) d. of Matthew and Elizabeth Ayres
30-09-1862: Baptism of Ruth Ann, born 24-09-1858   ditto parents
22-10-1871: Baptism of Annie, born 20-12-1862.        ditto parents

All these last at Ely Wesleyan.  Will post Ely Primitive Methodists, and Wisbech Ely Place after a sip of wine...
keith
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Re: Zebulum Ayres
« Reply #34 on: Friday 29 May 09 22:36 UTC (UK) »

Nearly done,
At Ely Primitive Methodists a baptism on 21-10-1856 of James AYRES son of (blank) and Mary of Hilgay (blank) born 11-08-1856 (At Brandon Creek and Feltwell).

At Wisbech Ely Place Baptist:
Baptism 31-08-1822  (blank) AYRES child of Mrs AYRES
Baptism Feb 1824: AYRES child aged 6 of Mr AYRES
Baptism 16-08-1824: AYRES child 3 months of Mr AYRES
Baptism: 25-04-1832: AYRES of Elm Street 4 years child of Mr Thos taylor

Not much info to go on there, all a bit shady, not even sure whether father Thos' surname or his occupation was mispelled as "taylor".

Finally, I had a look at parishes near Bottisham.
At Stow Cum Quy a baptism on 11-09-1864 for Ruth AYRES, d. of John and Mary (otp), the parents living at Bottisham Lode, lab adult
At Swaffham Bulbeck on 09-11-1828 a baptism of William AYRES s. of William and Ann of Bottisham Lode, lab

Hope there might be something there of interest, sorry no Zebulum, but as another character beginning with the letter Z - Zebedee - used to say, time for bed now...
regards, keith 
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Re: Zebulum Ayres
« Reply #35 on: Saturday 30 May 09 04:52 UTC (UK) »

Thanks Keith for the information from the Non-Conformist records- very useful!
Ally
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Re: Zebulum Ayres
« Reply #36 on: Saturday 30 May 09 07:38 UTC (UK) »

Hi, Ally,
Sorry, I misread your post of yesterday evening as coming from Redroger, so I'm glad if anything I've turned up helps you with your AYRES family.  Now, where's Redroger - though it is still quite early here in sunny Cambridge...
keith
N.B. Perhaps next time I'm at the CCRO I'll get a copy of that filiation order (never looked at one of those before!) and send it to you, as it concerns someone in your tree...
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Re: Zebulum Ayres
« Reply #37 on: Saturday 30 May 09 07:44 UTC (UK) »

Keith

No problem!

Redroger & I share a link with the Bottisham Ayres, many of which appear to have belonged to the Non-Conformist faith so records have been hard to come by.

My Gt Aunt Elizabeth Beard married Stubbing Henry aka Harry Ayres (son Of William "Tiffler" Ayres & Hephzibah Cornwell)

Ally
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Re: Zebulum Ayres
« Reply #38 on: Saturday 30 May 09 10:48 UTC (UK) »

At 8.38 today I was in Waitrose, I go early so I'm the first customer at their fish counter; the decent stuff has usually gone by 9.00. Keith, I would like a copy of the filiation order please. I don't think the Ely baptisms are mine, as mine were Bottisham, and later into Cambridge. Basically my Ayres (or Ayers) ancestors are the same family as Ally, I am sure she will agree.
Ally, I am intrigued by the Absolom Ayres baptism with him shown as living 1884-1906; is there an error here? My mother always talked as though she knew him well, and she was not born until September 1903?. The only Absolom I have recorded is my mother's Uncle b1884, son of James Ayres and Emily Cornwell.
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Re: Zebulum Ayres
« Reply #39 on: Saturday 30 May 09 11:54 UTC (UK) »

Redroger,
As a result of an exchange of PM's, it's more likely that Ally will be up at the CCRO before me, as it'll be quite a while before I get there again...
keith
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Re: Zebulum Ayres
« Reply #40 on: Saturday 30 May 09 19:53 UTC (UK) »

Redroger

I am hoping to go to Cambridge in next month and will gladly obtain the filiation order, scan and forward it to you.

Regarding Absolom's dates, the information I have is as follows:

 
Absalom AYRES
Birth: 1884
Location: Bottisham, Cambridgeshire, England
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(the Registration District in which the birth took place)

2. Free BMD - births:
1884 Dec Q Newmarket 3b 537

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4. Free BMD - deaths:
1906 Source: Free BMD Mar Q Newmarket 3b 331
 
Regards

Ally
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Re: Zebulum Ayres
« Reply #41 on: Sunday 31 May 09 12:58 UTC (UK) »

Absolom must have married quite early, I know of at least one son, possibly still living, or was it a grandson? b c1930. Apparently at one stage he worked with my cousin on I think the then Eastern Electricity Board. If he was a son then possibly Absolom married twice, but if it was a grandson he could well have died in 1906. Ally, Thanks for the offer of the filiation order.Keith, Thanks for info.
Roger
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Re: Zebulum Ayres
« Reply #42 on: Thursday 11 June 09 18:51 UTC (UK) »

Trying to finalise this problem. 1911 census shows that James Ayres and Emily Cornwell had 11 children, 5 of whom had died before this census. I know that Ruth (b1869) had died before the 1881 census, and that Absolom (Mott) is shown as dying in 1906. I have 9 children recorded including the mysterious Zeb.So I am at least 2 children short, and three child deaths. Anyone help please?
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