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Topic: Marriage - William Sheppard (Shepherd) and Ann Reed (Read) (Read 466 times)
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SueMe
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I'm really stuck on these two - William Sheppard born abt 1806 probably Beachampton, Bucks. Ann Reed born abt 1813 Deeping St James, Lincs. Their eldest child, Elizabeth, was born 1835 in Beachampton. But I can't find a marriage for them. It would (possibly) be around 1834 and could be Deeping, Surfleet, Sleaford. Or anywhere.
If any one can help they will earn my everlasting grats.
Sue
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Oughton - Norfolk and East Riding
Sheppard - Hull YKS, Beachampton BKM, Berkshire
Cooke - Roos YKS, East Riding
Briggs - Newbald YKS, East Riding
Leeming - Lancashire, Hull YKS
Kell - Hull YKS
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Glen in Tinsel Kni
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Scottish Borders
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Two surnames ripe for variant spellings
A bit late given the date you mention but.....
Helpringham (St Andrew)
14 May 1839
William Shepherd (widower) to Fanny Read
Probable first marriage
Helpringham (St Andrew)
01 Mar 1838
William SHEPHERD to Mary Ann Archer
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ivanidea
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Hello Sue
I happened to see your posting on the Lincs Look-ups.
Is this the family:
1841 Hunslet (William and Ann + 3)
1851 Drypool (William and Ruth + 4 + 2 Lodgers)
Do you think that Ann and Ruth are the same person?
The following might be worth investigating further unless you have already eliminated them:
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Marriages 2Q 1844
GLENTON Ruth Hull 22 249
Graham Jane Hull 22 249
Hall William Hull 22 249
Hull Caroline Hull 22 249
HUTTON Ann Hull 22 249
Middleton Charles Hull 22 249
SHEPHERD William Hull 22 249
Stephenson John Hull 22 249
Ivan
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Geoff-E
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Hi Sue
One or two points as they come to me ...
Michael LINTON who died in 1840 -
Born Bitchfield in 1783
Married Sarah GREEN in Bitchfield in 1814
Buried in Bitchfield in 1840 aged 576
I haven't yet dicovered what happened to his wife, but a Sarah Ann LENTON was buried at Bitchfield in 1834 aged 8. See IGI for baptism - parents noted as Michael and Sarah (LINTON).
The man who married Ruth READ was stated to be a Bachelor - see FreeReg. Regarding their children, the IGI has Caroline 1824 (died), George 1828 (died) and Ann 1832 (died)
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ivanidea
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Dear Sue
Thank you for the synopsis of the facts.
Just some thoughts:
It is a possibility that Ann and Ruth are the same person and I just wondered if you thought that they were – hence my question.
The names of the mother relative to each of the children’s births also indicate that 2 different women were involved and yet the fact that Ann and Ruth both apparently had the surname Read/Reed does raise the possibility that they were sisters (or related in some way). Of course, it could be mere coincidence that both were named Read/Reed
The pattern of the births of William’s children suggests that if Ann was William’s first wife then she died in c1841 [i.e. after Mary Ann was born (2Q 1840?) but before John was born (2Q 1842?)]. The fact that John was born in Hull (whereas the other children were born in Bucks) could indicate that after Ann died William and his family moved to Yorks. An alternative is that William and Ann separated but if that was the case it seems somewhat unusual that the children remained with William.
I could find only 2 death records which might fit but each of the dates is “suspect”:
Deaths Sep 1842
SHEPHERD Ann Sculcoates 22 293
Deaths Dec 1843
SHEPPARD Ann Buckingham 6 243
(A “long shot” but perhaps the second of these could provide a reason why William and Ruth did not marry until 1844).
The Wormald connection seems to be relevant.
[Marriages Sep 1856
SHEPHERD Elizabeth Sculcoates 9d 213
WORMALD Stephen Sculcoates 9d 213]
Do you know who this one is on the same page of the 1861 Census as William and Ruth?
1861 census
(RG09 Piece 3580 Folio 96 Page 13)
Marvel Street, Southcoates, Kingston Upon Hull
SHELLEY, George Head Married M 46 1815 Railway Porter born York
SHELLEY, Ann Wife Married F 49 1812 Lincoln born Deeping
WORMALD, William Stepson M 4 1857 born York Leeds
Sorry to ramble!!
Ivan
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ivanidea
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Hello Sue
What was the name of William and Ruth's Wormald grand-daughter on the 1861 Census. To me it looks like it could be Phebe but you seem to suggest Eva??
Was she William Wormald's sister?
Ivan
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ivanidea
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Hello Sue
Some more data which (hopefully) is of interest:
Ex IGI:
Children with father Michael Lenton, mother Ruth:
Caroline LENTON, Christening: 4 January 1824, Surfleet, Lincoln, England
Death: 11 June 1824
George LENTON, Christening:18 May 1828, Surfleet, Lincoln, England
(I couldn't see one for Ann)
Ex Lincs Burials
Parish: Surfleet St Lawrence
LENTON, Caroline, Burial 11 June 1824, Abode: Surfleet Seas End, Age: 6m
LENTON, George, Burial 2 September 1828, Abode: Surfleet Seas End, Age: Inf
LENTON, Ann, Burial 19 August 1832,Abode: Surfleet Seas End, Age: Inf
(So it looks as though Ann may not have survived)
Ex IGI:
Children with father George Read, mother Mary:
George READS, Birth: 30 March 1791, Christening: 11 April 1791, Market Deeping, Lincoln,
Sarah READ, Birth: 07 December 1795, Christening: 24 January 1796, Market Deeping, Lincoln
Eliz. REED, Christening: 29 July 1799, Deeping St. James, Lincoln
Ann REED, Christening: 27 May 1802, Deeping St. James, Lincoln
Ruth REED, Christening: 03 January 1805, Deeping St. James, Lincoln
Mary REED, Female Christening: 08 August 1808, Deeping St. James, Lincoln,
Ex FreeReg:
MARRIAGES: St Lawrence, Surfleet, Lincolnshire
(All Grooms shown are Bachelors and all Brides are Spinsters)
Date: 20 Jan. 1818
Groom: Richard COATES
Abode: Kingston upon Hull
Bride: Anne READ
Abode: Surfleet
Bride’s father: George Read
Witness 1: Richard CUL*NE
Witness 2: Thomas SNEATH
Notes By Licence & with the consent of George READ the natural father
Date: 7 Aug.1823
Groom: Michael LENTON
Abode: Surfleet
Bride: Ruth READ
Abode: Surfleet
Bride’s father: George Read
Witness 1: William *
Witness 2: Thomas SNEATH
Notes: By Licence & with the consent of George READ the natural father
Date: 1 May 1826
Groom: Thomas BARTON
Abode: Surfleet
Bride: Elizabeth READ
Abode: Surfleet
Bride’s father: (Not given)
Witness 1: *hael LENTON
Witness 2: Wm CRANE
Notes: By Banns
(Presumably the asterisks are shown where the writing is not clear and “Witness 1” could well be Michael Lenton)
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From the above, the “Deeping” girls seem to be the same “lot” as the “Surfleet” girls (just Mary to account for!) but Ann(e) Read is accounted for by her marriage to Richard Coates although if she was baptised soon after birth she was only about 16 when she married. It seems possible that Ann(e) went on to marry George Shelley and Ruth went on to marry your William Sheppard.
(Marriages Dec 1856
Coates Ann Hull 9d 375
Harper Jane Margaret Hull 9d 375
Robinson James Hull 9d 375
Shelley George Hull 9d 375)
(Note there is a James Robinson and Jane M. Robinson on the 1861 Census living at Hull which could indicate that George Shelley married Ann Coates - but in the 1851 Census they were shown as a married couple?)
The other Ann Read from Deeping was christened in1813 but her father was Stephen not George so Stephen may be worth investigating further. However in 1841 Ann Shepherd is shown as being 35 which has been rounded down to the nearest 5 years and therefore she was actually 35-39 meaning that she was born 1803 to 1806. On this basis this Ann doesn’t seem a likely candidate to have married your William.
Hope this is of some use.
Ivan
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Geoff-E
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Ex IGI:
Children with father Michael Lenton, mother Ruth:
Caroline LENTON, Christening: 4 January 1824, Surfleet, Lincoln, England
Death: 11 June 1824
George LENTON, Christening:18 May 1828, Surfleet, Lincoln, England
(I couldn't see one for Ann)
Ann appears in the IGI as SENTON
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ivanidea
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Thanks, Geoff
Ivan
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It's strange that I can find no marriage for William Sheppard and Ann Reed since Elizabeth (their eldest child) was born at Beachampton. My family lived in Beachampton for generations and the records from the parish church are excellent. Nothing for William though. Could have married in Lincolnshire maybe. Or in Stony Stratford BKM.