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seratoninsunrise
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Mary Hannah Hills born Dec 1845 qt Wootton


Re: Joseph M Stevenson - Ilkeston Lookup
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 28 August 08 17:04 UTC (UK) »

Clarence R Stevenson b 1915- his mother's maiden name was Holmes

Joseph and haidee were not married until 1920

haidee's maiden name was beardsley.

So Roy samuel m Stevenson b. 1921 mother's maiden name beardsley is much more likely to be a child of Joseph and Haidee-he has the correct mother's maiden name and was born after their marriage

Suz

I think you have convinced me now. we are going to go with that now. All I have to do know is find the girls now, Doris, Joan and Ruth. Can you help me with the girls please?.
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Re: Joseph M Stevenson - Ilkeston Lookup
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 28 August 08 17:36 UTC (UK) »

I had a look n FreeMD to see if there were any other male Stevensons marrying female Beardsleys about the same time

I did find a Charles R Stevenson married a Lillie beardsley
Sept qtr 1913 Nottingham district 7b 944

so there is a possibility that some of the Stevenson children with mother's maiden name Beardsley may belong to this couple -only the birth certs or baptism records would tell you which couple they belong to

there are these children's birth registered after 1920 father Stevenson, mother Beardsley
Free BMD

all mother's maiden name Beardsley
Roy S M Stevenson Jun qtr 1921 7b 466 (as previusly posted)

kenneth E Stevenson Mar qtr 1922 Shardlow 7b 1027

Frank Stevenson mar qtr 1923 basford 7b 402
Joan M Stevenson mar qtr 1923 Basford 7b 421 (possibly "your" Joan ) -if Joan was a twin then Frank is the twin -or Frank belongs to the other couple

Norman S Stevenson Jun qtr 1924 Shardlow 7b 939

Doris M Stevenson Mar qtr 1925 Basford 7b 379

margaret M Stevenson Mar qtr 1927 Worksop 7b 59

Joseph B M Stevenson Jun qtr 1928 Worksop 7b 77

That is as far as FreeBMD has been transcribed

to find other children you will need to search the complete index (available on ancestry if you have a subscription) the search will have to be done year by year and quarter by quarter.
As gwendoline wasn't born until 1937 there may possibly be more children between 1928-1937

do you have any approximate dates for these children???

You stated that Roy Stevenson married a Gloria

There is a death reg for
Gloria margaret Stevenson
b 30 Aug 1930
died aug 1992
age 62
Ilkeston
6 10 65

if you know the names and age of any of their children then that may narrow the search for a marriage - as that will have to be searched quarter by quarter and year by year -hope this helps

Suz
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Re: Joseph M Stevenson - Ilkeston Lookup
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 28 August 08 17:39 UTC (UK) »

.. also the death reg for Roy SM Stevenson was in Derby district - he may have lived in Ilkeston district but if he died in Hospital (DRI or Derby city) then the death reg would have been in Derby district.

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Re: Joseph M Stevenson - Ilkeston Lookup
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 28 August 08 18:23 UTC (UK) »

Gloria married Roy Stevenson first then later on married Brian Stevenson [Joseph B M Stevenson]. Doris Stevenson born in 1925 certainly seems to fit as well.
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Re: Joseph M Stevenson - Ilkeston Lookup
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 21 June 09 08:22 UTC (UK) »

I have been on the 1911 census and found Joseph Moore Stevenson aged 14 working as a coal miner, in the census his Father has died as his Mother is a widow. She's called Mary E Stevenson aged 44 from Ilkeston and as well as Joseph M, there is Arthur Stevenson aged 21, coal miner, Frederick B Scatterford, aged 14, coal miner, Alice Stevenson aged 19 at school, Edith Stevenson, aged 8 also at school, and Ivy Sarah aged 2.  The census says Joseph M was born in Bellvue, Yorkshire but everyone else is from Ilkeston.

What's the connection to the Scatterford family?. It sounds like Frederick might be from a previous marriage.  Looking on freeMD in Basford district I have come up with James Stevenson & Mary Elizabeth B Scattergood married in Dec 1898.

This one just keeps getting more confusing, Can anyone help me out on this one?.

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Richard
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Re: Joseph M Stevenson - Ilkeston Lookup
« Reply #20 on: Sunday 21 June 09 10:32 UTC (UK) »

I would suggest that Frederick B Scatterford on 1911 - is really Scattergood ( a not unusual ilkeston name)

Have you seen the image or just the transcription in 1911

I will be back shortly with more info

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Re: Joseph M Stevenson - Ilkeston Lookup
« Reply #21 on: Sunday 21 June 09 10:40 UTC (UK) »

Hello,

I got the info from the transcript. I see on the list you have on the bottom of your replies you have Sisson as well. I have also connected to Joseph M Stevenson's wife Haidee, her Grandparents were James Beardsley b1829 ilkeston and Ruth Sisson b9/1/1827.

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Re: Joseph M Stevenson - Ilkeston Lookup
« Reply #22 on: Sunday 21 June 09 10:54 UTC (UK) »

I think 1911 may be a mistranscription - 1901 frederick Scattergood is described as "nephew"

1901
8 Spring Garden terrace Ilkeston
James Stevenson head M 41 Coal miner Contractor
mary wife 34
John W son 16 Coal miner hewer
Robert Scattergood nephew 14 Coal Pony Driver
Arthur Stevenson son 11
Joseph Stevenson son 4
Frederick Scattergood nephew 4
Alice Stevenson daughter 3mths
all b ilkeston
RG13 3150 69 21

this looks like james with 1st wife

1891
Baker St Ilkeston Derbys
James stevenson Head M 31 coal miner
Eliza wife 29
James W son 6
Arthur son 1
William H Barnes wife's brother U 20 Engine driver

all b ilkeston
RG12 2666 58 22

more soon

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Re: Joseph M Stevenson - Ilkeston Lookup
« Reply #23 on: Sunday 21 June 09 11:41 UTC (UK) »

here is Robert Scattergood in 1891
421 Cotmanhay rd Ilkeston Derbys
William Scattergood head m 47 Brickyard lab
Annie wife not known
William son 13
Frederick son 9
Allan Tomlinson stepson 17 Emp at Coal yard
Agnes Tomlinson stepdaughter 19
Robert Scattergood Grandson 4
all except Annie b Ilkeston
RG12 2665 48 40

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Re: Joseph M Stevenson - Ilkeston Lookup
« Reply #24 on: Sunday 21 June 09 11:52 UTC (UK) »

it looks like Mary Elizaeth B Scattergood had not been previously married

IGI -extracted

Mary Elizabeth buckland Scattergood
christened 11 Aug 1867 ilkeston Derbys
Parents William Scattergood/Anna Sophia

back later tonight

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Re: Joseph M Stevenson - Ilkeston Lookup
« Reply #25 on: Sunday 21 June 09 14:14 UTC (UK) »

I cannot find a birth reg for mary Elizabeth buckland Scattergood - But there is (as posted) a baptism record

I am wondering if she was born shortly before parents married and was registered as Buckland - and not baptised until after the marriage
Marriage FreeBMD
William Scattergood
Hannah Sophia Buckland
Mar qtr 1867
Basford
7b 152

Birth reg FreeBMD
Hannah Sophia Buckland
Sept qtr 1845
basford
15 452

Death reg freeBMD
Hannah Sophia Scattergood
age 23
mar qtr 1868
Basford
7b 78

Marriage
FreeBMD
William Scattergood
Ann Tomlinson
Jun qtr 1877
Basford
7b 222

so it looks like Mary elizabeth's father william Scattergood remarried in 1877

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Re: Joseph M Stevenson - Ilkeston Lookup
« Reply #26 on: Sunday 21 June 09 14:21 UTC (UK) »

Possibly Mary Elizabeth had a sister Sarah who lived with Grandparents

will take a further look later tonight

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Re: Joseph M Stevenson - Ilkeston Lookup
« Reply #27 on: Monday 22 June 09 16:45 UTC (UK) »

Thank you for all the info posted and all the time people have taken. I appreciate it. I have been trying to put it into to my tree on ancestry. I haven't been able to fit in the Scattergood nephews yet but its fascinating.

cheers Richard
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Re: Joseph M Stevenson - Ilkeston Lookup
« Reply #28 on: Monday 22 June 09 21:02 UTC (UK) »

Do you want me to carry on -to see what I can find???

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Re: Joseph M Stevenson - Ilkeston Lookup
« Reply #29 on: Monday 22 June 09 22:34 UTC (UK) »

yes please it all helps. Its all fascinating as the Stevenson's is all on my Wife's Mothers side.

cheers

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