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tabily
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Hello fellow searchers
Any help tracking down more information..would be most appreciated!
My GGG Grandfather Isaac Beattie emigrated to Australia via Scotland (where he married Martha McLeish on 25 March 1849 at the Bridgeton Free Church).
I believe Isaac was born in Rathfriland C1825.
Isaacs Parents were William and Eleanor (Ellen) Beatty. Any information or connections to them would be brilliant. According to the immigration records William Beatty was alive when Isaac and Martha came to Australia in 1852
Ellen Beatty died on 25 November 1873 in Rathfriland, Newry aged 86, with Isabella Reid at her side
I would love to know about any siblings of Isaacs and any information on his parents William and Ellen Beatty.. I have 2 letters from Ellen to Isaac dated 7 October 1864 and 16 June 1865. Ellen was living in Lissize with her daughter Sarah Beatty. Isaac was sending Ellen and Sarah money. Ellen mentions the following people:
Robert Carson Jane and children (Jane possibly Isaacs sister???)
William Reid Isabella and child( Isabella possibly Isaacs sister? )
Ellen McCrum and husband
John Campbell Mrs and family
Aunt Jane Moore and family (had daughter Rachel who married Isaac Bready of Tamery) and son? James Moore who came to Australia.
Thanks
Caroline
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aghadowey
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Found the following in IGI (www.familysearch.org) which seems to tie in to the details you posted-
Isaac BRADY m. Rachael Moore and had:
1. Dvid Lexander born 16 May 1866 Co.Down
2. Isaac born 7 May 1869 Co.Down
There are lots of Beatties in Co. Down listed in Ros Daves' website and you might want to go through and check all the other surnames you've listed as well-
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rosdavies/SURNAMES/Afrontpage.htm
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Thanks very much..shall do!
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tabily
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Hi Mary..
Thanks so much for your post .. I was struggling with which church they may have come from, so you have given me a great lead.
Can you tell me where/how you got this so I can try and track the rest of the family and hopefully sew them all together.
Thanks
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tabily
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Hi aljepeka..
This is the information I have transcribed from the letters I have which matches the marriage info from Mary Derry in earlier posts..
"Aunt Jane Moore and family is well I have to inform you that her daughter Rachel was married on the 17th May to a man called Isaac Bready of Tamery he holds a piece of land and they are pretty comfortable..
So hopefully this will help cross match! I don't know the maiden name of my GGGG grandmother..My guess is its Moore..and Aunt Jane is her sister..
Looking forward to more info... Looking good so far!
Cheers Caroline
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Hi Aljepeka..
Wow..that is great... Definately need to dig some more..and need to think about it some more!! I really think they have to be all the same people from the map Lissize seemed pretty tiny..
The most "obvious" solution to me is that James Moore and Aunt Jane Moore were married.. Rachel Moore was a daughter (who married Isaac Brady/Bready) and James Moore (snr) was my GGGG Grandmother Ellen Beattys (younger??brother)..Ellen would have been 77 when the letters below were written.. but how to prove/disprove it all??!!
Moore was the middle names of 2 of my Isaacs children and the James they mention below was probably the brother of Rachel. HMMM
Did they usually say if the father was deceased on the wedding certificate? As Ellen always named the man first in her letters..and there was no reference to a man/husbandwhen she talked about aunt Jane Moore
I had another look at the letters..I know you are interested in the Brady side..but I want to put it all out there!
Lessize, 7th October 1864
Aunt Jane Moore and family is well, they feel very thankful to you for the information you have given them about James, they have written to him evry month since you sent his adress.
Lessize 16th June 1865
Aunt Jane Moore and family is well I have to inform you that her daughter Rachel was married on the 17th May to a man called Isaac Bready of Tamery he holds a piece of land and they are pretty comfortable. They got no letter from James by the last mail they got a newspaper they expect a letter from him by this first mail, John Campbell Mrs and family is well, I cannot say that we have anything more to write that would interest you, give our love to James Moore. William intends to write to him in a few days.
PS.. I did try to track James Moore..but its such a common name..the ones I did find couldn't have been him..shall try looking again
cheers
Caroline
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Hi tabily
Just to let you know your information is very intersting as my GGGrandfather is Isaac Brady of Rathfriland who married Rachael Moore I have a copy of the marriage certifacate and also a Photo of his son Isaac who married Elizabeth Ann Walker of Portadown. Ireland their son Robert was my Grandfather and his son Robert was my Father. I would be very interested in a copy of your letters as I am trying to make a family tree. I am sure your Jane is a sister of Rachael Moore.
Corsamjz
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Hi Corsamjz..
Wow..how exciting  .. fantastic we connected!!! Imagine what our ancestors would have thought of this!!!!
Here is a transcription of the letters.. I will email you scans of the originals.. Hopefully we will be able to connect everyone.
I have already ordered the marriage certificate from Groni unfortunately..however last time time took a year to get me Ellens death certificate.. Do you have any other information on the Moores??
cheers
Tabily
Lessize, 7th October 1864
Dear Son and daughter,
Yours dated July 21st came to hand last month but was too late to reply by the mail leaving this last month, I have to thank you kindly for the post office order for the sum of 3pounds we got in your letter, we got it discounted without any trouble, I feel very thankful to you for your kindness, I am still able to move about my health is tolerable thanks to the giver of all good for his mercies to me.
Sarah is well we are living together as formerly, and with the assistance you give us from time to time we get through pretty comfortable.
Robert Carson Jane and children is well their family is getting up fast and is able the most of them to do for themselves. William is a good deal bigger than his father and is a good worker. William Reid Isabella and child is well. Ellen McCrum and husband is well, John Campbell Mrs and family is well. Aunt Jane Moore and family is well, they feel very thankful to you for the information you have given them about James, they have written to him evry month since you sent his adress, I almost forgot to say that Ellen McCrum gave birth to a little girl about a month ago it being her third child two little girls and one boy there was 9 years between her last two births, I was glad to find by yours that each of yours enjoyed good health, it is my prayer and desire that as you's and children grow in years you will also grow in grace. I know that a few more letters at most and then I must cease and part with all near and dear to me on earth, still one thing consoles me to meet with friends whom i hold dear, that we may behold his glory whose face was more marred than any mans and his visage more than the sons of me, when all earthly love will be eclypsed by love to him who first loved us and gave himself for us, for eye hathnot seen ear has not heard what God has prepared for them that love him
Sarah joins with me in best wishes to you and Mrs and children
your mother Ellen Beatty
adres Ellen Beatty Lessize
care of Mrs Morrison Main Street
Rathfriland Co Down Ireland
Letter 2/2 to Isaac Beattie from mother Ellen Beatty
Transcribed from the original by 9 February 2008
Lessize 16th June 1865
Dear Son and daughter
Your letter bearing date 21st March come to hand in due time with the accompanying remittance for the sum of two pounds sterling for which I feel very thankful to you, we were sorry to hear of your little daughter Isabella being ill we hope she is better by this time, I hope this will find yours all well, I may say to you that I continue a little better now than I have been all winter thank God for his goodness to me I might almost say that am spared to a good old age. Sarah is well and joins with me in this Robert Carson Jane and children is well, William Reid Isabella and child is well nothing particular among them they have each got newspapers from you since I wrote last. Aunt Jane Moore and family is well I have to inform you that her daughter Rachel was married on the 17th May to a man called Isaac Bready of Tamery he holds a piece of land and they are pretty comfortable. They got no letter from James by the last mail they got a newspaper they expect a letter from him by this first mail, John Campbell Mrs and family is well, I cannot say that we have anything more to write that would interest you, give our love to James Moore. William intends to write to him in a few days.
We remain your mother and sister Ellen and Sarah Beatty
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::)Hi Tabily
Thank you for your quick response regarding the letters It will be great to have these we are going now on holiday and as soon as we return we will try and get more information on Moores.
We are grateful to Aljepeka for her input on this occasion.
corsamjz
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Hi Corsamjz..
I think you tried to send me a message..I think you need to post a couple of public posts before you can send/recieve messages..check the rules (I am a girl and don't read instructions!!)
Hope you had a great holiday and we get this message thing sorted!!
cheers
Tabily
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Hi Tabily
Just to let you know we are home from holidays and hope to get more details for you later
Corsamjz
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Fantastic.. can't wait!
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