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Topic: Kellys of Carnmoney (Read 632 times)
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Kellysgirl
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I am a descendant of William Kelly who died on 7 March 1797, aged 65, and is buried in Carnmoney Old Churchyard along with 4 of his infant sons. His descendants include a number of William Kellys, James Hodges Kellys plus Robert Kellys and John Kellys. I should like to hear from any other known descendants of "Auld Billy" or from other Kellys with Carnmoney connections, especially if one of them holds the family bible, last seen by my grandmother in 1913. I should especially like to know from whence in Scotland the family came.
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stevenson
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Sarah Twig Jr in 1950
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Hi kelliegirl
Try this site you might find something that helps........................http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/.............let us know how you get on please
Steve
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saz1401
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You might find this link works better if you click on it than the one above
http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/
I also vagely remember reading somewhere about Kelly's and training racehorses in Carnmoney - do you know if they had any links with the McKinneys of Sentry Hill in Carnmoney?
saz 
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antrim, donegore, ballycraigy, doagh, ballysavage, carnmoney, ballyhenry, belfast, mallusk, hydepark names - twigg, gault, robinson, stevenson, todd, kirkpatrick, porter, mayne, topping, McDowell, douglas
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Kellysgirl
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Thanks both. Will try.
Yes, my ancestors get a mention in William Fee McKinney's "stud book" - a handwritten genealogy of his family and neighbours (to be seen at PRONI). It relates how one of the family, William Kelly, born 1845, was shot dead by another local man, James Green, on 10 August 1875, leaving behind pregnant widow Agnes ("Nancy", nee Dougherty) and children Ellen, John & Sarah. I know very little about what the family did during the Carnmoney years, nor exactly how they were connected with the McKinneys (they don't get a mention in Brian Walker's book "Sentry Hill") but my own GGGF moved to Belfast at some stage with the industrial revolution, changing his work from farming to gardening and his descendants were shipyard workers and sailors. 'Love to know where you read about the racehorse training Kellys, Saz - it sounds likely. Tks.
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saz1401
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Hi Kellysgirl
Sorry can't remember where I read it.
I have an interest in McKinney's and feel sure Kelly is one of the names mentioned somewhere in connection with training horses. I am also from Carnmoney (many years ago now) and am researching my family history. I will keep a look out for your name too - perhaps we are related in some way!
saz
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antrim, donegore, ballycraigy, doagh, ballysavage, carnmoney, ballyhenry, belfast, mallusk, hydepark names - twigg, gault, robinson, stevenson, todd, kirkpatrick, porter, mayne, topping, McDowell, douglas
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Kellysgirl
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Hi Saz,
Thanks. I see you have Kirkpatrick as one of your names of interest. My GGF (James Kelly, born 1801) married one Agnes (Nancy) Kirkpatrick in Carnmoney, though I am the descendant of his second marriage to Anne Jane Christie. I also have Gordons, Girvans, Lairds, Russells, Stewarts, Rowneys, McBrooms, Spences and Starrs in the Antrim FT. I visited Carnmoney last year and was impressed with the hill, the views and the new Presbyterian church, plus the very friendly folks.
Good luck with the FH research.
Kellysgirl
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the Luddite
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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I'm doing a one name study of the surname McBROOM. Any help you could offer would be most appreciated. I have pretty much everybody who ever existed in Scotland and now want to cover Ireland.
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Kellysgirl
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McBrooms
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Message for the Luddite re McBrooms: My grandfather's sister, Jane Kelly, born Belfast 1885, married one Walter McBroom, a ship's carpenter (later a caretaker) in 1909 at Duncairn Methodist church, Belfast. Walter was born around 1876 and died on 11 April 1954 aged 77 (buried Belfast city cemetery). He and Jane had two daughters, (Alice) Evelyn b 1909 & Isabelle b 1911, and were living at 43 Upper Canning St, Belfast, in 1911 (census shows him as a shipwright). In later life, they lived at 21 Alexander Park, Belfast but for a brief time lived in seaside cottages at Larne. One of Walter's daughters married a man named Asher Carey. Walter's father was also named Walter McBroom, and he married (?) at Sinclair Seamans church on 31 August 1863 and was living at Meadow St, Shankill, according to Gritffith's valuation from the 1860s.
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Kellysgirl
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Many thanks Kingskerswell, very kind of you. Kellysgirl
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Kanga
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Re Walter McBroom parents:
Death Notice: April 11, 1954 - Walter, eldest son of the late James and Margaret McBroom - Deeply regretted by brother John and sisters Minnie and Agnes.
James McBroom married Margaret Kirkpatrick, Civil Marriage, 5 March 1875 in Great Georges Street Presbyterian Church in the Parish of Shankhill, Civil District of Belfast.
LDS Online pilot website: Civil registration Marriage Index:
James McBroom & Maggie (shown as Margaret on Emerald Ancestors) Kirkpatrick, Registration date: 1875, film 101252, volume 1, Page 419.
UHF – Ulster Histroical Foundation:
Birth Indexes search results:
Search on the name Walter McBroom
There seems to be a problem with the spelling of the father’s surname McBroom and mother’s surname on UHF database for this record.
A wildcard search with the father’s name James McBro% and mother’s first name Margaret brings up:
1876 Walter McBroom (IFHF website - search confirms Civil Birth not Baptism record), Co Antrim
Search on just the surname McBroom with father’s name James McBro% (wildcard) and mother’s first name Margaret brings up the following:
1876 Walter McBroom, 1878 Margaret McBroom
1879 James McBroom, 1881 Agnes McBroom
1883 John McBroom, 1885 James McBroom
Search on just the surname McBroom with father’s name James McBroom and mother’s first name Margaret brings up the following:
1878 Margaret McBroom, 1879 James McBroom, 1881 Agnes McBroom, 1883 John McBroom,
1885 James McBroom, Co Antrim (IFHF website - search confirms Civil Birth not Baptism record).
Search on just the surname McBroom with father’s name James McBroom and mother’s name Margaret Kirkpatrick brings up the following:
1881 Agnes McBroom, 1883 James McBroom, Co Antrim
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Kanga
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Further information for your research Luddite.
There was a James McBroom who married Rebecca Law, Civil Marriage, 25 December 1871, in Duncairn Presbyterian Church in the Parish of Shankhill, Civil District of Belfast (Emerald Ancestors database)
UHF - Ulster Historical Foundation Indexes:
Search on just the surname McBroom with father’s name James McBroom and mother’s name Rebecca Law brings up the following:
1878 Jane McBroom, 1881 James McBroom, 1884 Walter McBroom, 1887 Francis McBroom, 1889 Rebecca McBroom, Co Antrim
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