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Washy
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Inquests
« on: Tuesday 10 March 09 13:54 UTC (UK) »

Hi everyone
I'm looking to find info on an inquest held in Aug 1849 on the death of my gt gt grandfather Edmund Twiss (twist). He came from Haydock . Was looking for his death for a long time but with the kind help from people on this site we found him in Swindon which was strange as there didn't seem to be any connection to the area, I emailed the registrar at Swindon who where very helpful, they told me "he was a Fireman and was 28 years old at the time of his death (which he would have been). His death was registered after inquest, which may mean that it was an unexpected death, so he could have just been visiting the Swindon area."
Are there any records of papers ect on line. I'm from the Lancashire area so can't just pop in to the local Swindon history shop.
Many thanks in advance

Washy


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Ferns
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Re: Inquests
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 19 March 09 06:29 UTC (UK) »

It appears that we are researching the same Edmund Twiss - was my Gr, Gr, Gr Grandad. I heard back from Swindon today and they kindly gave me the following which was in the Devizes & Wiltshire Gazette on 9th August 1849. The article read:-

"Inquests taken before Mr Whitmarsh.-
At New Swindon, on the body of Edmund Twist, stoker on the Great Western Railway.
Margaret Gray, a neighbour, stated that deceased had returned home in the night from Haydock near St. Helen's, Lancashire, where he had been staying the last ten days amongst his relatives.
He felt unwell, and went to Mr Rogers the same morning of his return, and in the evening he became worse, and soon afterwards this gentleman discovered that he was awfully suffering from the effects of Asiatic cholera, which caused his death in a few hours. - Verdict accordingly."

I hope this information is as helpful to you as it was to me.


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Washy
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Re: Inquests
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 19 March 09 13:03 UTC (UK) »

Hi Fern
That's brilliant! I love this site. I assume your descended from Edmund & Alice who are my gt grandparents. My grandmother was their daughter Mary Ellen who married Isaac Cooper. Have attached photo which was kindly restored & coloured by the people on this site. I have past the info. onto other people I am in contact with. They will be thrilled. Would be nice to compare notes if you are willing. Have sent you personal message with my email.

Many thanks

Washy

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Ferns
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Re: Inquests
« Reply #3 on: Friday 20 March 09 11:11 UTC (UK) »

What a lovely picture. Yes, Edmund and Alice were my gr gr grandparents. Their son Elias was my great grandfather. Elias and Sarah (nee Bolton) had a son Robert Twiss (my grandfather) my mums father. Unfortunately he died in a motor bike accident when my mum was only 8 so didn't get to meet him. I haven't been researching very long and it's very time consuming. My cousin had already started the family tree and he sent me a photo of Elias and Sarah which I will try to add. I ordered a marriage certificate for Edmund Twiss and Alice Knowles which has been delivered to my parents address in the UK as I live in Australia. They will send to me when the other certificates that I have ordered arrive. I have the details if you haven't got them already. Let me know.

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Washy
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Re: Inquests
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 21 March 09 00:57 UTC (UK) »

Hi fern
Considering you've only just begun you found info on Edmund a lot quicker than I ever did. Have told a contact to come & say hello. She has a lot of info on Twiss family on line on Ancestry.co.uk she will gladly share with you.
Keep trying to attach picture of Edmund & Alice's marriage cert for you to see but will not post. Will keep trying.

Washy


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krisesjoint
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Re: Inquests
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 21 March 09 01:08 UTC (UK) »

Hi Washy and Fern,

Lovely to see you have made contact. Grin

Washy, please do not post a marriage certificate. We do not allow complete certs to be posted due to copyright issues. It is fine to transcribe the details contained on the certificate or crop a small portion for identification purposes, but not to post the complete image.

If Fern replies here I am sure the PM system will open up to her and you will be able to share email addresses privately if you so desire. All the best in the contact............Kris

PS: Washy, I see you managed to post it while I was typing. Sorry, I have had to remove it Cry


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Washy
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Re: Inquests
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 21 March 09 01:14 UTC (UK) »

Sorry Kris. Wish I'd know that would have saved me a lot of trouble trying to attach it lol.

Fern if you would like to see it send me email

Washy


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Rowan Tree
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Re: Inquests
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 21 March 09 07:25 UTC (UK) »

A big Hello to Washy ( Wink

) and Fern Cheesy

,

Washy pointed me in the direction of this post and I have just be reading with great interest and much excitement.

Fern, first of all well done on finding the details of the inquest on Edmund. Myself, Washy and another Twiss descendant had been trying to work out what happened to Edmund and had not got as far as yourself. The first breakthrough came when Washy and Roots chatters put their heads together and came up with the Swindon connection. From there Washy had inspiration with the Swindon register office and now you've found the actual newspaper report covering the inquest. Well done to everyone who helped uncover Edmund's final days. It really has been incredible to read the details reported in the Devizes & Wiltshire Gazette.

Now onto where I fit in...

I am a Twiss descendant but I'm descended from Edmund's elder sister not Edmund himself. My direct ancestor is Anne Twiss b. 1812 in Haydock. Strangely though, I'm also related to Edmund's wife, Ann Harrison b. 1821. Ann Harrison had an Aunt named Rebecca Harrison b. 1797. Rebecca Harrison is a direct ancestor of mine.

Washy, I have a tree on Ancestry with lots of Twiss and Harrison information. If you PM me your e-mail address I can send you an invite to my tree so you can have a proper look at all the Twiss' and Harrison's. Also, I think you have Heaton's in your tree. If I've got this right, Mary Winifred Orme's (Robert Twiss' wife) mother was a Heaton before she married. Well I'm a Heaton descendant also. My Heaton's are from Ashton-in-Makerfield.

Back onto the Twiss'....

I already had Elias Twiss and Sarah Bolton in my tree and I'd found three of their daughters; Elizabeth b. 1913, Carrie b. 1916 and Martha b. 1918. I saw the 1923 birth registration for Robert and wondered if he was a younger brother.

Well that's all from me for now but if I can help at all please get in touch.

Best Wishes, Kirsty (Rowan Tree)


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ABBOTT - St. Helens area & Blackrod, LAN
BAINES - Haydock, LAN
BLACK - Grasmere, WES & Prescot, LAN
COTTAM, HEATON & LITTLER - Ashton-in-Makerfield, LAN
DIEHL - Germany
FORSHAW - Haydock, LAN
HARRISON - Newton-le-Willows, Haydock & Parr, LAN
IRONMONGER - BDF
JACKSON - Newton-le-Willows, LAN & Somerford Booths, CHS
KELLY - Dun Laoghaire
LONGBOTTAM, NAYLOR, NICHOLSON & PARKINSON - LAN
MADDOCKS - WLS, CHS & LAN
MOORE - IRL & LAN
ROSCOE - Sutton/Prescot, LAN
TITTLE & TOLLETT - CHS & LAN

Rowan Tree
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Re: Inquests
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 21 March 09 07:42 UTC (UK) »

Only me again Wink

....

Here are some details of some TWISS and HARRISON certificates:

10/06/1896
St. Thomas, Golborne, Lancashire
Isaac Cooper - 22 - B - Collier - Golborne - John Cooper - Collier
Mary Ellen Twist - 17 - S - Blank - Golborne - Edmund Twist - Blacksmith
Witnesses: Arthur Morris and Elizabeth Twist

07/10/1850
St. Thomas, Ashton-in-Makerfield, Lancashire
James Twiss - Full Age - B - Engine Driver - Haydock - Thomas Twiss - Collier
Anne Critchley - Full Age - S - Silk Weaver - Haydock - Henry Critchley - Engine Driver
Witnesses: Joseph ?? and Peter ??

22/02/1864
St. Thomas, Ashton-in-Makerfield, Lancashire
Edmund Twiss - 28 - B - Labourer - Haydock - Edmund Twiss - Dead
Alice Knowles - 21 - S - Blank - Haydock - Thomas Knowles - Dead
Witnesses: Joseph Oakden and James Gibbons

20/08/1843
St. Wilfrid, Farnworth, Lancashire
Peers Harrison - Full Age - B - Collier - Parr - William Ironmonger - Huntsman
Sarah Baines - Minor - S - Blank - Parr - Thomas Baines - Collier
Witnesses: William Harrison and Ellen Thompson

The above Peers Harrison was a 1st cousin to Ann Harrison who married Edmund Twiss. Peers was the illegitimate son of Rebecca Harrison.

TTFN, Kirsty


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Ferns
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Re: Inquests
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 22 March 09 10:08 UTC (UK) »

Hi all

I also have a tree on ancestry.co.uk which am slowly trying to update - please PM email address and I will you an invite to view. My grandmother was Mary Winifred Orme and she married Robert Twiss 16 Aug 1949. Mary's mother was Martha Heaton - I have attached a photo of her on ancestry family tree. Martha was married to Thomas Orme - she was his 2nd wife. When Thomas Orme married Martha Heaton he was a widow. Thomas remarried after the death of Martha - she died from TB but don't know the date of death as yet. Robert was born on 26 Jan 1923 and he died from a motor bike accident on 14 Mar 1959. I will PM my email address also as I would love to view your family tree. Thanks for all the info.


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Rowan Tree
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Re: Inquests
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 22 March 09 12:18 UTC (UK) »

Hi-de-hi Ferns,

Thanks for the post and PM. An e-mail is about to find its way to your in-box

.

Tootle-Pip, Kirsty Cheesy


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Washy
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Re: Inquests
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 22 March 09 12:30 UTC (UK) »

Hi
Kirsty I don't know how you're not dizzy with all the different ways your related to Twiss family. A lot of twists in your tree lol.
Ferns thanks for the pm have sent you copy of marriage certs hope they come through alright. I've also pointed the other contact to this post so hopefully they will also come & say hello.

Washy


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Rowan Tree
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Re: Inquests
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 22 March 09 12:43 UTC (UK) »

Quote from: Washy on Sunday 22 March 09 12:30 UTC (UK)

...Kirsty, I don't know how you're not dizzy with all the different ways your related to Twiss family. A lot of Twists in your tree lol...
Washy

Hola Washy,

I am dizzy Wink

. Not only have I TWISS ancestors but I've also got a completely separate line of TWIST's. In PR's the Twiss' sometimes appear as Twist's and the Twist's sometimes appear as Twiss' Shocked

! Also, geographically speaking my Twiss' and Twist's are from boarding towns so there's confusion no end. Fun though Cheesy

.

Hugs, Kirsty Cheesy

P.S. Twists, turns (and Twiss') galore... lol...


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Zerlina
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Re: Inquests
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 14 June 09 19:45 UTC (UK) »

Hi,

I'm new to this site but had to reply because you have the picture of my grandparents Isaac and Mary Ellen which is the same picture I have of them on the wall upstairs. I wondered who you are? I must know you??


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