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ann7
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births in Japan
« on: Friday 19 June 09 00:38 UTC (UK) »
I'm looking for information on the births in japan circa 1860's, I have a relative who married someone in, we think, Huh the merchant navy and was with her husband in Japan for the births of her 2 daughters, by 1871 she and her daughters were back in Cornwall. If someone can help the details are as follows

Mary Trist 1836 Rame Cornwall married Alfred Edwin Lyne 1841 N/A in 1863 Devon
daughters
Minnie 1865 Yokahama, Japan
Ellen 1867 Yokahama, Japan

I have been able to trace everyone up to 1911 except Ellen who, after 1881 census, seems to have disappeared. I need to know if her name was Ellen as there are marriages for Helen  and wonder if this was her real name...

Any help would be appreciated

Ann7
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Re: births in Japan
« Reply #1 on: Friday 26 June 09 07:31 UTC (UK) »
Hi Ann

I think she is the Helen Francis Lyne that married Henry Preedy. In the 1891 Census her place of birth is Japan, and the age is the right. My GGGF was in the Royal Marines stationed in Japan, so there was a sizable British community there.

Have you checked the Overseas/Military births on Findmypast? And are you certain Alfred was in the Merchant Navy?

Ken
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Re: births in Japan
« Reply #2 on: Friday 26 June 09 22:10 UTC (UK) »
Hi Ken.
I have already looked at the Helen Frances Lyne who married Henry Preedy and her name was Helen Stock according to another researcher who traced the birth, apparently she was illegitimate and this person assumed that she used her father's name on her marriage certificate. I am going to order the certificate and see who she names as her father...

Regarding Alfred Edwin Lyne and the merchant navy, there are no records of Alfred in 1871 and 1881 but there is an Alfred Edwin Lyne on 1891 census in Hull.
Mary Lyne and her daughters are on the census records for those years and we assume that the marriage broke up and Mary returned to UK with the children and even though she was still alive in 1891 there is a marriage record for Alfred in 1893 and a death record for him in 1898 all in Hull, whether there was a divorce is anyone's guess but the 1891 census list him as Sailor Merchant Navy so one assumes  this was the Alfred Lyne who married Mary and returned from Japan and based himself in Hull.

I know there are a lot of assumptions and have just had a look on findmypast and can't find birth records for the girls, will have to wait and see what the marriage cert. says
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