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wardells
« on: Monday 15 June 09 03:27 UTC (UK) »
looking for info on Joseph wardell no record of siblings or parents. married Letitia bunting about 1850.parents Elizabeth brereton and john bunting married abt 1820 antrim co lisburn.Joseph and Letitia emigrated to Canada.have there children in Canada.need Irish roots.
i believe he was from around the mageragall ,mageragall parish as where the buntings.need possible grave inscriptions of wardells from the area.there is books on grave of mageragall 1,2 and 3 cannot find copies.Joseph wardell on the allotment record, no other information on the record.Letitia brother William and Elizabeth stayed in ireland.1 record shows Letitia born 1825 antrim co.

it could have been Joseph dad on the allotment record don't have details.
have a tree started on the wardells from abt 1700  and all of the wardells from atrim seem to be related.
there  was a john wardell married to Susanna Byrne in 1846 Dublin no further records.

any help would be greatly appreciated

Thanks Kevin Wardell
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Re: wardells
« Reply #1 on: Monday 15 June 09 07:26 UTC (UK) »
Welcome to Rootschat. Without an exact location in Ireland it'll be difficult to know where to start searching.
Are you sure about dates? IGI (www.familysearch.org) lists a son to Joseph and Letitia- William Henry born 1873 Ontario.
Do you think Joseph and Letitia married in Ireland? I did a quick check in the civil index (covers Catholic marriages 1864-  and other marriages 1845-  ) and no sign of a Joseph Wardell (any spelling) getting married.
Have you found Joseph's death registered in Canada? there might be more information in that record.
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Re: wardells
« Reply #2 on: Monday 15 June 09 14:52 UTC (UK) »
joseph died in strathroy,ontario and had 8 children william henry was his son.
Have Canadian side of tree,need irish side.Says Joseph born about 1829 Antrim Co,Lisburn,Ireland,Census Canada has him born abt 1833,Have a tree started from Wardells in Ireland but births around 1929 i have obtained from some church records found on webbsite.
have only come accross one joseph wardell on the allotmet record,don't have any other details about this record.Might be joseph or his dad.The wardell of antrim and down are related,some were quakers and some i think of the irish church.Joseph was not a popular name for males. 1st son jonas,george,john then a william or henry. I'am assuming joseph dad was george or john 1788,1790.i think they were from the Magheragall,Magheragall parish. around lisburm Ireland co antrim.i'am looking for a book called Mageragall 1,2,3 that has grave records,allso a acopy of the allotment with joseph wardell.

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Re: wardells
« Reply #3 on: Monday 15 June 09 15:13 UTC (UK) »
It's always best to give us as much detail as possible so that we can either find more information for you or to suggest where to search next.

In Irish research, as with any other sort, you need to work back carefully through all available records to trace a family.
In this case, you have a record (?) saying Joseph Wardell was born c1829 in Lisburn, Co. Antrim, Ireland. If you haven't found his marriage in Canadian records then you could try Irish civil registrations (from 1864 for Catholic marriages and from 1845 for other marriages).
http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=collectionDetails;t=searchable;c=1408347

When is the first time you've found Joseph in Canada? are all his children born there? if so, when was the eldest known child born?

Not sure what the 'allotment record' you refer to is supposed to be- perhaps Griffith's Valuation or Tithe Applotment List?

At this point you need more proof in order to connect your Joseph Wardell to anyone else of that name in Co. Antrim. Joseph's marriage record (either in Canada or Ireland) should list his father's name and occupation which would help.
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Re: wardells
« Reply #4 on: Monday 15 June 09 15:22 UTC (UK) »
If Joseph Wardell died age 94 in Ontario his death registration says he was born 1830 Ireland son of Joseph Wardell.
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Re: wardells
« Reply #5 on: Monday 15 June 09 15:48 UTC (UK) »
do you have something saying his father is joseph wardell.
no marriage record yet could they have married on the boat over.
Joseph wardell was listed on the tithe applotment list antrim co.
how do you find out more information on this list.date age etc.

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Re: wardells
« Reply #6 on: Monday 15 June 09 17:10 UTC (UK) »
Joseph Wardell's Ontario death registration gives his father as Joseph Wardell born Ireland and space for mother has 'Strathroy no.6' which is also filled in below so it looks like a mistake has been made- perhaps informant didn't know the mother's details.

As I mentioned earlier, you need to search step-by-step through all available records for clues- starting with all possible Canadian records.

Quote from: kwardell2 on Monday 15 June 09 15:48 UTC (UK)
Joseph wardell was listed on the tithe applotment list antrim co.
how do you find out more information on this list.date age etc.
Tithe Applotment is a list of people who paid tithes- it will not show any personal details, like ages or relationships.
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Re: wardells
« Reply #7 on: Monday 15 June 09 23:08 UTC (UK) »
thanks how do you view a copy of the death certificte. i have not signed up for subscriptions on any ancestory sites. don't know which one is best for northern ireland records.Joseph wardell grave has no mention of father or mother on it.searched what i could on various webbsites and joseph only came up once in irish records on the allotment.have lots of wardell but no joseph. I might be going to Strathroy were he was buried near my grandmother, what else could i obtain or look for. Somebody already did a partial family tree from joseph down to my dad in 1998 and it took him 7 years. Paid somebody in ireland to search with no succes.with more data bases coming up i might get lucky one day.

Kevin
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Re: wardells
« Reply #8 on: Monday 15 June 09 23:28 UTC (UK) »
1827 Tithe Applotment Book- (not Allotment)
Mullycartin, Magheragall Parish: Joseph Wardell

Court Leet Proceedings & Presentments in the Manor of Killultagh in Blaris parish. The seneschal was William Gregg Esq., the foreman was Richard Rollo Haughton Esq.  - 28th May 1836
"41. To Nathaniel Dickey and John Wardell, to repair the road leading from Mullacarton through Morusk to the new Lurgan Road, to be levied off Lower Magheragall, £5."
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rosdavies/WORDS/MiscellaneousLists.htm

c1861 Griffith's Valuation- Mullaghcarton: John Wardell
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