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son68john
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Tracing Family
« on: Tuesday 16 June 09 00:34 UTC (UK) »

Hi everyone on RootsChat.com
I am a beginner at tracing my family tree,  and not sure where to start , I have written  down my Ancestors as far as i know but a bit stuck as to find out any more,   Any help would be most Appreciated  i do not know if this the right way to go about  finding anything about my family but hope some one can put me on the right track Kind regards . D Johnson

      Charles Johnson
         Great great Grandfather       
     
                      |
          William Johnson
                Grandfather   born 1888     Harry Stone
                    Worksop Notts                            Grandfather  Whitwell Derbyshire
                          |                                            |
           Charles Richard Johnson          Winifred Johnson
                           Born 1913                               Nee Stone     
                Father  Creswell Derbyshire                                      Mother
                             
                                       Derek Winston Johnson
                                               my full name  Born 1941 Chesterfield
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Re: Tracing Family
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 16 June 09 00:43 UTC (UK) »

Hullo Derek  and welcome to rootschat Grin

What you have set out looks fine- the critical things to give in a post, wherever possible, if full names, places, dates such as of bmds.

I assume you are wanting to go backwards and find out more about your greatgrandparents...
If you buy the marriage certs for any marriage after 1837 you will find the names of the bride and groom and also their fathers' names and occupations... so maybe getting Charles Johnson's marriage cert and Harry Stone's will help you considerably.
You can find their marriage reference details by searching on  freebmd  then order online- each cert costs 7 GBP. G**gle for  freebmd site.

Also, have you looked  at an census for your families' details?

Get back to us and let us know how this is going.

charlotte Grin
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Re: Tracing Family
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 16 June 09 00:52 UTC (UK) »

You beat me to it Charlotte.  Grin

Welcome from me too Derek.

This is the freebmd (birth, marriage and death) site Charlotte mentioned:
http://www.freebmd.org.uk/
There is also a freecen which gives some census. Census were taken every 10 years from 1841, giving slightly more information each time. Neither freebmd or freecen are fully complete, so if you can't find the right person in the right place, don't worry, as the area they lived in may not be transcribed yet.

Just to get you started, I had a look on the 1891 census for William Johnson with father Charles but couldn't find one born in Worksop or anywhere in Nottinghamshire. Are you sure he was BORN there?  There are 41 William Johnsons with father Charles born elsewhere in 1888 plus or minus 5 years in the 1891 census. William should be 3 years old and at home with mum and dad.  Smiley

As Charlotte says you will need to purchase some certificates just to make sure you are tracing the right families, as you have fairly common names there.  Grin
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Re: Tracing Family
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 16 June 09 01:00 UTC (UK) »

Births Dec 1888 

JOHNSON  William     
district: Worksop 
volume: 7b
page: 29

This looks promising. I'll have another look to see if I can spot him in 1891.

No, sorry I can't see him. There is a Johnson family in Worksop in 1891 with father Charles and mother Elizabeth, and several children but no son William ... Undecided
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Re: Tracing Family
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 16 June 09 01:06 UTC (UK) »

I've had a look for Winifred Stone on freebmd and there are a surprising number of them. Do you know Winifred's year and place of birth?
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Re: Tracing Family
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 16 June 09 08:00 UTC (UK) »

Hello all….

Welcome to Derek from me too  Smiley

Here is a bit more to get you started…..

Marriage & baptism sources are from the Nottinghamshire FHS indexes

Marriage – Worksop St John – 14th June 1886
Charles JOHNSON & Mary Ann RAINES

Baptisms – Worksop St John
Parents = Charles & Mary Ann Johnson
Mary Elizabeth – 9th June 1887 – fathers occupation Porter M.S. & L – address Sandy Lane
WILLIAM – 28th March 1889 – occupation Miner, address Norfolk St.
Lilian – 6th December 1890 - occupation Miner, address Norfolk St
Rebecca Murfilt Johnson – 9th November 1892 - occupation Miner, address 24, Norfolk St
John Henry – 1st August 1894 - occupation Miner, address Mapsons Yd.

1891 – RG/2643/35/27 – 66, Norfolk St, Worksop
William Raines – head, aged 51, General Labourer, born Chesterfield, Derbyshire.
Elizabeth Raines, wife, aged 49, born Blythe, Notts.
William Raines, son, aged 22, Groom, born Carlton Notts
Harriet Raines, dau, aged 21, Dressmaker, born Carlton Notts
J. H. Raines, son, aged 17, coal miner, born Eastwood, Notts.
MARY A JOHNSON, daughter, Married, born Armthorpe, Yorks
M.E, Johnson, granddaughter, aged 8, born Worksop
WILLIAM JOHNSON, grandson, aged 2, born Worksop
Lilian Johnson, granddaughter, aged 4 mths born Worksop
William Allen, Boarder,Wid,  aged 46, Coal Miner, born Little Gringley, Notts.

1901 - RG13/3130/112/ 3. – New Village, Cresswell, Derbyshire
Charles Johnson  aged 37  -  coal miner (hewer) - born Shireoaks, Notts
Mary A Johnson aged 38  - born Armthorpe
William Johnson aged 12  - born Worksop
Lily Johnson aged 10  - born Worksop
John H Johnson aged 6  - born Worksop
Alfred Johnson aged 3  - born Wombwell, Yorksshire

Baptism - Worksop Priory (St Mary & St Cuthbert) – 31st May 1863
CHARLES JOHNSON – parents Alfred & Rachel – fathers occupation = Collier, abode- Shireoaks

Best Wishes & Happy Hunting…

Sheila.

Edited = now found Charles on the 1891 census as he wasn’t at home with his family.
Here he is........

1891 - RG12/2646/116/46 – 26, Old Rows. Kiveton Park, Wales, Yorkshire
Maria Simpkin, Head, Widow, aged 56, born Newhall, Derbyshire.
Moses Simpkin, son, aged 21, coal miner, born Keveton Park, Yorks
CHARLES JOHNSON,Lodger, Married,aged 27, coal miner, born Shireoaks, Nottinghamshire.
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Re: Tracing Family
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 16 June 09 12:55 UTC (UK) »

Excellent finds Shiela!  Cheesy
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Re: Tracing Family
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 16 June 09 18:01 UTC (UK) »

Hi all

A little more to the story!

Charles Johnson married Mary Ann Raines 14.06.1886 at Worksop, St John.

Carol
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Re: Tracing Family
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 16 June 09 21:30 UTC (UK) »

Hi Charlotte.
Thank you for your quick reply and the information you have given me,
i will try and put it to good use as i say i am only learning and taking it step by step, I have looked at the census for my family and the family names corresponds with the findings of  Dizzifish  and tells me a lot more about my family. anyway cannot thank you enough and hope to be chatting to you again.
  Kind regards   Derek Johnson   
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