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Topic: Starnes family from Sipson/Uxbridge (Read 556 times)
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woody32
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1851 for Sarah Temple ? Living London Road Isleworth
Mary Temple 54 Head (wid) b Barban or Barton (maybe Barton Stacey?)Hants.
Sarah Temple 21 Dau Isleworth Middlesex.
Roberts Spear 1 Cousin
HO107 Piece 1698 Folio 212 Page 9
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LANCASHIRE = Wood,Howard,,Smethurst,Foxall,Cheetham,Brookes,Grime, Horrocks,Thornley,Arstall,Shawcross,Rowland,Mclean LINCOLNSHIRE = Featherstone Johnson,Toyne,Willson,
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woody32
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Struggling with 1841..
there is a Sarah Temple b 1829 living with the Fisher family in BARTON STACEY not born in county
also on the same page is a JOHN CHILD/CHILE b 1821 (See previous post ADA STARNES was living with a JOHN W CHILES in Barton Stacey ).
HO107 Piece 383 Book 12
anyone else want to check?
"Hope this is the right one
1901...Living with a CHILES family in "The Ruins" Barton Stacey.
John W Chiles 83 wid b Barton Stacey retired farmer
Earle Chiles 51 b Barton Stacey
Henrietta Chiles 31 b Barton Stacey
Ada Starnes 13 Visitor b Sipson Slough Bucks.
RG13 Piece 1113 Folio 24 Page 13"
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LANCASHIRE = Wood,Howard,,Smethurst,Foxall,Cheetham,Brookes,Grime, Horrocks,Thornley,Arstall,Shawcross,Rowland,Mclean LINCOLNSHIRE = Featherstone Johnson,Toyne,Willson,
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patjk
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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1871 for James Starnes Senior (still going strong  ) still living in Sipson. James Starnes 90 Mary Starnes 63 Ellen Starnes 27 dau b Harmondsworth William Starnes 24 son Carpenter B Harmondsworth James Pym 14 Grocers assistant. RG10 Piece 1305 Folio 103 Page 24 death for James.. Dec 1873 James Starnes age 92 Staines 3a 10
Woody32, Hello and thank you SOOOO much. This is amazing information. It has to be Ada, my grandmother, living as a visitor at 'The Ruins' since there is a family tradition that she was in the Andover area for some unspecified reason around 1900. You cannot imagine how often, in recent years, I've mentally flogged myself for not asking her questions about her early life and her family. I did discover that Ada was illegitimate, a somewhat startling find, and something I don't believe even my mother was aware of. My stepfather certainly wasn't and was as surprised as I was when I told him of it. As you discovered, Annie did marry but whether he was my grandmother's father there is now no way to discover I imagine.
Ada took a rather dim view of alcohol, and there was something -- or someone -- in the family background that led to that aversion. I never knew the truth of the matter, but if Ada lived for any length of time with her mother's brother Albert, who was a publican it appears after being a grocer, he or his customers might be the culprit.
Thank you again.
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jorose
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The Chiles family:
John William Chiles d. 1907 aged 90 in Andover district.
Earl(e) Chiles b. 1850 d. Mar 1920 in Andover, can't see a marriage.
In 1881 they had a number of children, (Earle and Henrietta are shown) including a John who appears to have possibly married later in 1881 to Emily Mary Starnes. (They appear in 1901 in Hayes, Middlesex, on http://www.1901censusonline.com/ under the spelling "Childs"). So there was a family link there.
Do you have Ada Agatha's birth certificate? With luck, the details there (any addresses, etc), might lead to other possible places to look for her family.
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patjk
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The Chiles family: John William Chiles d. 1907 aged 90 in Andover district. Earl(e) Chiles b. 1850 d. Mar 1920 in Andover, can't see a marriage. In 1881 they had a number of children, (Earle and Henrietta are shown) including a John who appears to have possibly married later in 1881 to Emily Mary Starnes. (They appear in 1901 in Hayes, Middlesex, on http://www.1901censusonline.com/ under the spelling "Childs"). So there was a family link there. Do you have Ada Agatha's birth certificate? With luck, the details there (any addresses, etc), might lead to other possible places to look for her family.
Yes, I do have Ada's birth certificate as it happens, and it's how I found out that she was illegitimate -- no father's name is provided. But it's a spartan document. The birth occurred on June 28th 1887 at -- as you surmised -- Harlington, in the sub-district of Staines in Middlesex. The daughter's name is given (Ada Agnes) and the mother's, Annie Starnes of 'Sipson, Harmondsworth.' Aside from the name of the registrar and the date of registration (August 10th 1887) that's all the information there is.
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woody32
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It seems that Percival Leonard Starnes b1867..emigrated to America..theres a tree on Anc.... that has most of the details of your family....The tree's owner is a Wayne Starnes.
if you don't have access to ance..i can email him on your behalf.
If you PM me your email address i will send it to him and you can compare notes etc.
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LANCASHIRE = Wood,Howard,,Smethurst,Foxall,Cheetham,Brookes,Grime, Horrocks,Thornley,Arstall,Shawcross,Rowland,Mclean LINCOLNSHIRE = Featherstone Johnson,Toyne,Willson,
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patjk
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Not sure how to get you my email address, and I understand it's not allowed (or not recommended) to include email addresses in messages. But I certainly have no problem letting you have it. I'm very new to this, so please bear with me. If you can let me know how, I'll get on it.
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woody32
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Hi Patjk,
If you look at my picture on the left..underneath is a symbol click on that and it allows you to PM me
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LANCASHIRE = Wood,Howard,,Smethurst,Foxall,Cheetham,Brookes,Grime, Horrocks,Thornley,Arstall,Shawcross,Rowland,Mclean LINCOLNSHIRE = Featherstone Johnson,Toyne,Willson,
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woody32
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Hi,
Here is a Photo of Percival Leonard Starnes outside his shop..(thanks to Wayne Starne for permission to post on here)
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LANCASHIRE = Wood,Howard,,Smethurst,Foxall,Cheetham,Brookes,Grime, Horrocks,Thornley,Arstall,Shawcross,Rowland,Mclean LINCOLNSHIRE = Featherstone Johnson,Toyne,Willson,
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woody32
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hi, according to the tag on the photo..it was in LONGFORD LONDON.
Hi Patjk,
I did send him your Email address, I will send it again today.
Woody.
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LANCASHIRE = Wood,Howard,,Smethurst,Foxall,Cheetham,Brookes,Grime, Horrocks,Thornley,Arstall,Shawcross,Rowland,Mclean LINCOLNSHIRE = Featherstone Johnson,Toyne,Willson,
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patjk
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hi, according to the tag on the photo..it was in LONGFORD LONDON.
Hi Patjk,
I did send him your Email address, I will send it again today.
Woody.
If one looks closely at the photograph, the words 'Longford Post Office' can be seen over the door of the shop and according to a birth record I found online, Longford is in or near to Staines, Middlesex, which makes sense since a number of the Starnes family are stated to have been born at Staines. However, I have so far been unable to find a Longford in relationship to Staines or any references to a post office there. There is a Longford in Ireland which muddies the water a bit.
Incidentally, I discovered that Percy Starnes and his wife Sara had three children, Alexander James (born at Staines in 1894), Kathleen Ellen (born at Staines in September 1896) and Leonard M. Starnes who was born about 1904, possibly in the United States since I can't find a record of his birth in the UK.
Thanks, Woody, for passing on my contact details.
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allisont
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I work in Longford, it's about a mile or so from Sipson and borders the northern runway of Heathrow Airport. I don't recognise that frontage although there are still some old houses and pubs standing.
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