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KarieK
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Re: Ethel "Nellie" Evans- Vancouver, BC
« Reply #30 on: Thursday 18 June 09 19:38 UTC (UK) »

You are very welcome, research keeps my brain active.  I also checked out the Canadian attestation records but could not find anything that matches your Hugh Auld.  I hope you have good luck with Random Acts, I have gotten good service from them in the past.
I do actually have my own brick walls in Ireland, you may regret your offer LOL.  My gr gr grandfather Thomas Kerr was born in County Antrim circa 1825 to Hugh Kerr and Margaret McGleish...there could be a variant on that spelling.  I don't have a clue where in Antrim, both parents were deceased by the time of his death in 1855 in Scotland.  Thomas' wife gave the info on the parents names and that Hugh's occupation was a Thatcher.  I haven't even been able to confirm that their names were Hugh and Margaret. 
If you have any suggestions I would be grateful.
Karie
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liscoole
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Re: Ethel "Nellie" Evans- Vancouver, BC
« Reply #31 on: Thursday 18 June 09 20:30 UTC (UK) »

Hi Karie

Not a problem, would love to try and help with your irish folk!

After some digging I found that there was a Hugh Kerr listed in the 1803 agricultural census of Antrim as living in  Ballyweeny, in Ballymoney in the parish of Connor, County Antrim.  Ballymoney is situated close to Ballymena- and loads of people in that area are of scottish origin. There isnt any further info on that though. I also found details of a will for a Hugh Kerr in Ballyweeny dated 1829. At the moment PRONI is only indexing the names of pre 1858 wills, but in the future they are going to have the wills themselves transcribed online and searchable for free, but if you cant wait that long you can contact them and they will copy it and send it to you for a fee (dont know how much though!).
Here's the link
http://applications.proni.gov.uk/DCAL_PRONI_ProniNames/SearchResults.aspx
Also on the Ulster Historical Foundation site there are a few early Hugh Kerr county Antrim births- A Hugh Kerr born 1798 in County antrim father George, a Hugh Kerr born 1827 father also called Hugh.
Unfortunately this is a pay per view site, each record costs £4. www.ancestryireland.com

I also checked out the gravestone inscriptions for Kerr County Antrim and found the following-

Graveyard Name:  Ballyweany Pres
Parish:  Loughguile
Town/Townland:  Ballyweeny
County:  Antrim
Surname:  KERR

Inscription:  In memory of William Kerr, late of Ballyweany, who died, 23d May 1863, aged 49 years, also, his daughter, Isabella Kerr, who died, 14th December 1897, aged 80 years, also, their daughter, Jane Kerr, died, 4th September 1892.


Graveyard Name:  Ballyweany Pres
Parish:  Loughguile
Town/Townland:  Ballyweeny
County:  Antrim
Surname:  KERR
 
Inscription:  Erected by William J Kerr, Ballyweany, in memory of his father, Christopher Kerr, who died, 21st July 1898, also, his mother, Agnes, who died, 13th May 1925, aged 17 years, also, the above named William J Kerr, died, 16th March 1945, also, his wife, Elizabeth, died, 11th July 1964, and their son, Christopher, died, 28th January 1978

Also
Graveyard Name:  Dunaghy Old
Parish:  Dunaghy
Town/Townland:  Glebe
County:  Antrim
Surname:  KERR
Inscription:  Erected to the memory of Hugh Kerr late of Ballywafrey* who departed this life the 26th March 1809 aged 67 years, Hugh Kerr 26th March 1809

*This might be a mistranscription of Ballweeny- it's in the same townland.

Hopefully this will give you something to go on..  I will keep looking

Best wishes
Liscoole

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MAGEE (Dungannon Tyrone to Shankill Belfast, to Whitehouse Co Antrim,) HALL (Lisnaskea, Co Fermanagh to Yan Yean, Melbourne Australia) McIVOR (Whitehouse, Co Antrim), McCULLOUGH (Markethill, Armagh), DEMPSTER (Ballymena, Co Antrim to Belfast), CUMMING (Glasgow), EVANS (Llandysill, Montgomeryshire to Belfast), NEVIN/ NEVINS (Ballynahinch, Co Down to Belfast), EMMS (Kingston Upon Thames, Surrey), HURREY (Yan Yean, Whittlesea, Melbourne), FINLAY- Jane, of Co Down, m James McIvor 1867.
KarieK
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Re: Ethel "Nellie" Evans- Vancouver, BC
« Reply #32 on: Friday 19 June 09 14:25 UTC (UK) »

Hi Liscoole
I appreciate the info, does Proni also have info on marriages in Antrim.  I have in the past posted on various sites to see if someone else was searching this Kerr family.  Funny, when I was growing up there was only one other Kerr family in our area and then when I started to do research I found out it was as common as Smith.  I will go onto the Ulster site and take a look.
The 1827 Hugh birth looks promising for a brother of Thomas.
I'll keep in touch
Kind Regards, Karie
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liscoole
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Re: Ethel "Nellie" Evans- Vancouver, BC
« Reply #33 on: Friday 19 June 09 14:53 UTC (UK) »

Karie

There are very few pre 1864 records online for N Ireland. When you get back as far as you have done, you really only have parish records to rely on. A tiny number of these are online but the vast majority are held on microfilm at PRONI headquarters in South Belfast. They do have a search facility available, but you need to know the exact church before they will look anything up.

Fragments of the 1851 census of County Antrim did survive and you might be lucky- here's the link.

http://www.ulsterancestry.com/ua-free-pages.php

If I can help any further just let me know

Liscoole
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MAGEE (Dungannon Tyrone to Shankill Belfast, to Whitehouse Co Antrim,) HALL (Lisnaskea, Co Fermanagh to Yan Yean, Melbourne Australia) McIVOR (Whitehouse, Co Antrim), McCULLOUGH (Markethill, Armagh), DEMPSTER (Ballymena, Co Antrim to Belfast), CUMMING (Glasgow), EVANS (Llandysill, Montgomeryshire to Belfast), NEVIN/ NEVINS (Ballynahinch, Co Down to Belfast), EMMS (Kingston Upon Thames, Surrey), HURREY (Yan Yean, Whittlesea, Melbourne), FINLAY- Jane, of Co Down, m James McIvor 1867.
KarieK
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Re: Ethel "Nellie" Evans- Vancouver, BC
« Reply #34 on: Friday 19 June 09 15:25 UTC (UK) »

I was just on the Ulster site, I think I am back too far for it right now.  I have used the Irish Origins site and copied down some leads.  I found a promising lead on the valuation rolls quite a few years ago with a Hugh born circa 1797 living with a 40 year old daughter Mary, he was a widower.  It also listed children absent from Ireland but Thomas was not amongst them but there was a younger Hugh mentioned.
My Thomas appears on the 1841 census in Dalry Ayrshire and the 1851 but on his death cert his wife states that he emigrated 1843/44 and of course there are not records for the crossing.  On the '41 census he is 15 and '51 he is 25 and he married in Dec of that year.  I even tried to see how many Kerrs there were in Dalry from Ireland to see if he had a sibling he came over with. 
I just keep plugging away at it.
Karie
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Re: Ethel "Nellie" Evans- Vancouver, BC
« Reply #35 on: Friday 19 June 09 15:46 UTC (UK) »

Karie

The further you go back with Ireland, the fewer the resources are. The earliest online resource I can think of is the freeholders search. I looked there but didnt find anything that would narrow down your search- have a look yourself and see what you think.

http://applications.proni.gov.uk/Freeholders/default.aspx

If you can narrow it down to a certain area I might be able to help more.

Best wishes
Liscoole

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MAGEE (Dungannon Tyrone to Shankill Belfast, to Whitehouse Co Antrim,) HALL (Lisnaskea, Co Fermanagh to Yan Yean, Melbourne Australia) McIVOR (Whitehouse, Co Antrim), McCULLOUGH (Markethill, Armagh), DEMPSTER (Ballymena, Co Antrim to Belfast), CUMMING (Glasgow), EVANS (Llandysill, Montgomeryshire to Belfast), NEVIN/ NEVINS (Ballynahinch, Co Down to Belfast), EMMS (Kingston Upon Thames, Surrey), HURREY (Yan Yean, Whittlesea, Melbourne), FINLAY- Jane, of Co Down, m James McIvor 1867.
KarieK
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Re: Ethel "Nellie" Evans- Vancouver, BC
« Reply #36 on: Friday 19 June 09 16:25 UTC (UK) »

I will try that site.  I was lucky, not Thomas for sure, that he died Jan 5th 1855 when civil registration was instituted Jan 1st. and that his wife knew his parents names and where he came from.  Sadly, the information on Scottish death certs was shortened as the years went on.
I'll let you know if anything tweaks me.
Karie

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Re: Ethel "Nellie" Evans- Vancouver, BC
« Reply #37 on: Friday 26 June 09 14:36 UTC (UK) »

We actually have rootschatters who do lookups... If you still need them, please put the names and dates from the BMD which you need, and someone will bookmark the page that they are going to do the lookup for you... J.J.
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KarieK
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Re: Ethel "Nellie" Evans- Vancouver, BC
« Reply #38 on: Friday 26 June 09 15:16 UTC (UK) »

Thanks J.J. for your response...Liscoole and I were just chatting as you can see.  I will post to Ireland board.
Regards, Karie
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