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wolfeeboy
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RAMUS, Waterford
« on: Tuesday 16 June 09 12:39 BST (UK) »

Hi there,
I'm new to this site so please forgive the clumsy way I've found you.
I've been tracing the 'Ramus' family tree for a year and a half, and have a stumbling block in Waterford around the 1870's. Alfred (1870), Henry (1872), and Louisa Martha (1875), all children of Joseph Ramus (London 1845), are listed in their later English census's as having been born in Waterford, Ireland. Joseph was a fine art dealer, they relocated to Scotland at some point, and re emerge in the Scottish census of 1891, with a new addition of Bertie, born in Glasgow (1878). I would be so grateful if you could advise me of my options, or indeed chances (if any) of tracing their birth certificates. The family has a Jewish heritage too, if that's any help, I look forward eagerly to any assistance you may be able to offer,

yours,
Andy Ramus
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shanew147
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Re: RAMUS, Waterford
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 16 June 09 14:28 BST (UK) »

Civil registration started here in 1864 so the Children's births should be registered.

familysearch have an online index to the registers available at : http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=2;t=searchable;c=1408347  although a quick search shows only one partial match with details of the details of the death of an Elizabeth Mary Ramos (age 66), in Dublin South

if you find promising matches you can order research certs from the GRO - www.groireland.ie

another poster on the Dublin board mentioned the Jewish Museum in Dublin, which was able to find very useful records - maybe they hold Waterford records or could refer you to a similar resource in that county..

  http://www.jewishireland.org/genealogy.html



Shane
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Re: RAMUS, Waterford
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 16 June 09 22:46 BST (UK) »

I had a look at an 1867 directory for Waterford and no Ramus or Ramos are listed.
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halfpenny
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Re: RAMUS, Waterford
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 17 June 09 11:01 BST (UK) »

Possible from the IGI:

Luisa Martha Raymond    Pedigree
     Female         
         
Event(s):
   Birth:     
20 DEC 1874      Waterford, Waterford, Ireland
   Christening:
   Death:
   Burial:
         
Parents:
     Father:     Joseph Raymond    Family
     Mother:     Harriett Boulton    
            
Source Information:
   Batch No.:     Dates:     Source Call No.:     Type:     Printout Call No.:     Type:
   C701586     1875     0255925      Film     NONE



and


Henry Joseph <Raymond>    Pedigree
     Male         
         
Event(s):
   Birth:     
14 JUN 1872      , , Ireland
   Christening:
   Death:
   Burial:
         
Parents:
     Father:     Joseph Raymond    Family
     Mother:     Harriet Louisa Boulton    
   
Messages:
   Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
            
Source Information:
   Batch No.:     Dates:     Source Call No.:     Type:     Printout Call No.:     Type:
   C701497     1872     0255854      Film     NONE


and possibly



IGI Individual Record     FamilySearch™ International Genealogical Index v5.0
     British Isles
Search Results  | Download | Print
         
ALFRED JOSEPH RAYMOND    Pedigree
     Male         
         
Event(s):
   Birth:     
29 JAN 1870      , Waterford, Ireland
   Christening:
   Death:
   Burial:
         
Parents:
     Father:     JOSEPH RAYMOND    Family
     Mother:     HARRETT LOUISA WOODFIN    
   
Messages:
   Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
            
Source Information:
   Batch No.:     Dates:     Source Call No.:     Type:     Printout Call No.:     Type:
   C014054



you can get the GRO ref from the Familysearch pilot site and send off for the birth certificates if you atr happy they are yours.




Halfpenny






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wolfeeboy
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Re: RAMUS, Waterford
« Reply #4 on: Friday 24 July 09 16:08 BST (UK) »

absolutely spot on Halfpenny you champion !!
Thanks so much for that. Slightly surprised they could have children and record it out of wedlock in Ireland as I thought that sort of thing would have been frowned upon, but the dates and names are a perfect match.

Is it possible to get copies of the original records?

Once again thanks a million,

Andy Ramus
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wolfeeboy
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Re: RAMUS, Waterford
« Reply #5 on: Friday 24 July 09 16:12 BST (UK) »

Please excuse my short sightedness, just spotted your addendum about applying for the records,
Ta

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