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Ada Lewis/Smith Nurse child????
« on: Tuesday 16 June 09 20:48 UTC (UK) »

Hi, i am trying to locate my great great grandmother Ada Smith's past.

CAN ANYONE HELP?

The earliest record we have of her is in Kinnersley.

1881
Jos Smith 46, b warwickshire
Mary Ann - 42, b staunton on wye
Ada Lewis - 2 (nurse child) b. birmingham

can anyone shed any light on this Ada, was she adopted? who were her parents? are there any adoption/nurse child records available that would solve this??

Thanks
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Re: Ada Lewis/Smith Nurse child????
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 16 June 09 21:01 UTC (UK) »

As a nurse child, Ada would have been looked after by the family she was with for payment.  This would have been an informal arrangement between the (usually) mother and the person/people who looked after her.  It is possible that they are relatives, but not likely.    Whoever is paying for her to be cared for is probably in the same area. For example it may be a single mother who doesn't work at  home, or a widowed father.

Addition On FreeBMD there is only one Ada Lewis born in Birmingham who would be aged 2 on census night 1881 (birth registered in June quarter of 1878)
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Re: Ada Lewis/Smith Nurse child????
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 16 June 09 21:10 UTC (UK) »

The IGI shows an Ada Lewis baptised in Birmingham on 1 August 1878.  Although this is shown as  extracted from local records, it doesn't say which church.  Her parents are Edward  and Mary Ann Lewis. 
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Re: Ada Lewis/Smith Nurse child????
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 16 June 09 21:16 UTC (UK) »

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Hi, i am trying to locate my great great grandmother Ada Smith's past.

It looks like she's been transcribed as Ada Louise Smith on both IGI and An*****y - the handwriting is pretty bad!

Laurina
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Re: Ada Lewis/Smith Nurse child????
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 16 June 09 21:17 UTC (UK) »

Hello,

there are some births (and deaths) about the right time in Free BMD.

Do you have Ada in later censuses? Did she give a father's name on her marriage certificate?


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Re: Ada Lewis/Smith Nurse child????
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 16 June 09 21:22 UTC (UK) »

Sorry, for some reason my last couple of messages have not shown on the board.

Thanks all thats brill!!

A Mary Ann is with her on a few later censuses, Mary Ann Smith/ Sinnock, could this be the same mary?

Her marriage cert has Samuel Sinnock as her father, but he married Mary A, after her birth.

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Re: Ada Lewis/Smith Nurse child????
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 16 June 09 21:25 UTC (UK) »

Hello,

you seem to have posted this message on the wrong board and I am quite confused.
As Laurina says the writing is quite grim on 1881 and she looks to be Smith. Looking at your other posts, you mention Ada Smith.
Please help us- who are we looking for?  Roll Eyes

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Re: Ada Lewis/Smith Nurse child????
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 16 June 09 21:33 UTC (UK) »

sorry, it does get confusing Smiley

I am trying to find Ada Lewis from my 1st post.
The confusing thing is she is an Ada Smith in 1891 a domestic servant.

1901 Her son, Samuel James Smith is living with Samuel Sinnock (her father on marriage cert) and Wife Mary A Sinnock

I was wondering if this Mary could have been the Mary Ann Lewis mentioned by Galium.

Hope this helps.
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Re: Ada Lewis/Smith Nurse child????
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 16 June 09 21:39 UTC (UK) »

If you're sure of the marriage then this marriage cert would give you Mary Ann's age and her father's name and occupation

Samuel Sinnock / Mary Ann Smith OR Elizabeth Sheers
2Q 1883  Weobley Herefordshire  6a  809 

Added: You could then compare Mary's age with the age of Mary Ann Smith in 1881 and decide if it's the same person.

I can't find them in the later census to compare ages.


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Re: Ada Lewis/Smith Nurse child????
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 16 June 09 21:51 UTC (UK) »

thanks Laurina

we have the marriage for Ada that says her father was Samuel Sinnock. 
It confused us because we couldn't find any trace of her being with Samuel Sinnock, other than her son Samuel James Smith living with him in 1901.

Samuel Sinnock married Mary Ann Smith Jun 26th? 1883 Weobly, we don't have the actual cert, so I will try to order it.

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Re: Ada Lewis/Smith Nurse child????
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 16 June 09 21:54 UTC (UK) »

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Re: Ada Lewis/Smith Nurse child????
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 16 June 09 21:59 UTC (UK) »

I think I can see your problem.

Mary Ann Smith is married to Joseph Smith and they don't appear to have any children.
1871 RG10; Piece: 2705; Folio: 61; Page: 9

plus the 1881 you quote with nurse child

1883 : marriage

1891 : RG12; Piece: 2067; Folio 84; Page 2  - no children Mary A is 50

1901 : RG13; Piece: 2479; Folio: 46; Page: 2

with Samuel 7 yrs (no relationship given)

The spellings are not that good throughout.

So the problem is  who is Ada  really?

Is that it?
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Re: Ada Lewis/Smith Nurse child????
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 16 June 09 22:06 UTC (UK) »

great! i will do asap.

These are the censuses i have, perhaps they can help.

1901- Little London Staunton on Wye, Weobly
Thomas Williams, head, 60, b. Mansell Gamage
Arthur Williams, son, 40, b. Staunton on Wye (Ada married him nov 20 1901)
Ann Jones, lodger, 89, b. Wormsley
Ada Smith, lodger, 23, b. Hereford
William White, lodger, 7, b. Staunton

1901- Credenhill Hereford
Samuel Sinnock, head, 59, Mansell Lacey
Mary A Sinnock, wife, 60, b. Wormsley
Samuel J Smith, no relation stated, 7, Mansell Lacey (Ada's son)

1891
Ada Smith, 13, Servant Martha Maton? House, b. Kinnersley

1881 Kinnersley
Jos Smith, 46, b. Warwickshire
Mary Ann - ,42, b. Staunton on Wye
Ada Lewis - ,2 (nurse child) b. Birmingham

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Re: Ada Lewis/Smith Nurse child????
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 16 June 09 22:08 UTC (UK) »

yep, spot on Laurina Smiley

so many twists and turns in finding her.
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Re: Ada Lewis/Smith Nurse child????
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 16 June 09 22:14 UTC (UK) »

Where is Ada in 1901?

Laurina
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