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irene_kipyahoo.co
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Western Infirmary Glasgow
« on: Tuesday 16 June 09 21:29 UTC (UK) »
My gt gt grandfather died in the Western Infirmary on 5/7/1885  he lived in Neilston, Renfrewshire at the time. 

Any ideas how I could find out where he was buried. He's not in Neilston Cemetery and St Convals was not open at this time.  He was Roman Catholic.

His name was Charles Gallacher - he died as a result of a pub brawl!! NICE!

Lots of people on Roots have give me lots of info about his death etc but I simply can't find where he is buried.

More help needed please.

Irene
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Re: Western Infirmary Glasgow
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 17 June 09 20:21 UTC (UK) »
Might be worth checking with East Renfrewshire Council, they should hold any records.

The old cemetery beside the original St John's Church in Barrhead is another possibility but I'm not sure if there are records for this. A lot of addresses for the area are listed as Neilston but are somewhere between Barrhead and Neilston.

Just noticed in your post the other day you already know about St John's, there are a few tips on this thread that may be of help
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=4f2966bf3e51f6f79dd58378f0196f02&topic=329035.0
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Falkyrn
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Re: Western Infirmary Glasgow
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 17 June 09 22:00 UTC (UK) »
A lot would depend on the financial circumstances of the family at the time

-Many families returned to their roots for burials and they may have had a previously purchased lair elsewhere if they were not originally from Neilston - In addition many, if not all, cemeteries maintained by the local authorities were non denominational.

But if in receipt of benefit through the poor law relief the "normal" action at the time by the appropriate authority would have been to return any burden onto the home area of the person involved.

Do you know why was he in the Western Infirmary if he lived in Neilston ? - the natural choice of local hospital would have been the Royal Alexandra Infirmary
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Re: Western Infirmary Glasgow
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 18 June 09 10:06 UTC (UK) »
Hi

Charles was involved in a pub fight in Neilston - he was struck on the head and collapsed some 2months later - by all accounts he was 'a bit of a lad'!

Not clear if perhaps injury too serious for RAH, Paisley to deal with or perhaps visiting Glasgow area.

He was originally from Ireland but had been over in Neilston for over 20 yrs.  He was a flaxdresser by trade so prob wouldn'y have much money to return body to 'home'.

Thanks
irene
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Re: Western Infirmary Glasgow
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 18 June 09 19:02 UTC (UK) »
Given that Neilston was not only in a seperate County from the Western Infirmary but in a completely different Parish area plus that in those days treatment had to be paid for - either by the patient, their family or if things were really bad the parish The Western Infirmary remains a very strange location for a Neilston man to end up - possibly you may be right about him visiting someone in that area when he became ill.

Unfortunately if the parish dealt with his death he may have been buried in any of a number of cemeteries in the west end or southside of Glasgow (Govan Parish covered the Western).

One avenue that you may wish to explore is to check the Western's Archives - have a look at http://www.archives.gla.ac.uk/gghb/collects/hb6.html for the contact details. (found at the very bottom of the page)
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Re: Western Infirmary Glasgow
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 18 June 09 19:59 UTC (UK) »
I don't know about then but certainly later the Western General was the hospital for brain injuries as they specialised in neurology.
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Re: Western Infirmary Glasgow
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 18 June 09 20:15 UTC (UK) »
Quote from: duckweed on Thursday 18 June 09 19:59 UTC (UK)
I don't know about then but certainly later the Western General was the hospital for brain injuries as they specialised in neurology.

The Western was instituted as a teaching hospital  through it's connections with the nearby Glasgow University perhaps this closeness did provide access to a greater number of specialists - although it is also possible that being a teaching hospital they required a wider field of treatment/exploration for their students and took in patients from outside their normal area.

However the procedure at that time period was very much down to payment for the services provided and without checking the specific archives we could make numerous speculations and miss the truth completely.
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Re: Western Infirmary Glasgow
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 18 June 09 22:24 UTC (UK) »
Hi,
I don't know for sure if the Western Infirmary did neurosurgery at that time, but there is a story about the ghost of a neurosurgeon who had made the wrong diagnosis on an artist with headaches who died. The surgeon hanged himself in the old A block theatre and his presence was heralded by the smell of cigar smoke.....
Won't be there now, A block is demolished and you can't smoke indoors.
At the time I believe Infirmaries were subscription hospitals which meant, for most people, if you had a subscription to a friendly society, they would use certain hospitals.
Western General Hospital is in Edinburgh.
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Re: Western Infirmary Glasgow
« Reply #8 on: Friday 19 June 09 07:15 UTC (UK) »
I also remember that the workhouse was next door to the Western so I assume they took quite a lot of paupers there.
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Re: Western Infirmary Glasgow
« Reply #9 on: Friday 19 June 09 08:43 UTC (UK) »
Quote from: duckweed on Friday 19 June 09 07:15 UTC (UK)
I also remember that the workhouse was next door to the Western so I assume they took quite a lot of paupers there.

Which Western ?
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Re: Western Infirmary Glasgow
« Reply #10 on: Friday 19 June 09 08:48 UTC (UK) »
The Glasgow one.
Quote from: Falkyrn on Friday 19 June 09 08:43 UTC (UK)
Quote from: duckweed on Friday 19 June 09 07:15 UTC (UK)
I also remember that the workhouse was next door to the Western so I assume they took quite a lot of paupers there.

Which Western ?
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Re: Western Infirmary Glasgow
« Reply #11 on: Friday 19 June 09 12:31 UTC (UK) »
Sorry for hijacking the thread

Which workhouse was this - it may answer a few questions for me as the only workhouse I knew of maintained by Govan Parish was some distance from there.
I can see nothing on an 1894 map of the area.
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