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son68john
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Thanks to all who helped trace my family tree .Charlotte. Dizzifish. Ruskie.Sunflower. thanks again. I missed part of the family tree off .this was my father's mother . her name was Mary Jane Johnson .nee Tomlinson Born in Longton Staffordshire daughter of Richard Tomlinson she was born in 1886. any information on this side of family most appreciated . and once again thanks for all your help.
Kind regards Derek Johnson.
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AMBLY
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Hi Derek
1891: 39 Cobden Street - Town of Longton, Parish of Trentham, Staffordshire
RG12 / Piece: 2146 / Folio 9 / Page 13
Head: Richard TOMLINSON 43, Potters Presser
Wife: Elizabeth TOMLINSON 43
Dau: Annie TOMLINSON 16, unm, Warehouse Fish
Dau: Elizabeth TOMLINSON 10, Scholar
Dau: Louisa TOMLINSON 8, Scholar
Dau: Mary Jane TOMLINSON 4, Scholar
Son: Willie TOMLINSON 2
Son: Richard TOMLINSON 3mths
Cheers
AMBLY
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AMBLY
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1901:35 Adelaide Street Town of Fenton, Staffordshire
RG13 / Piece: 2612 / Folio: 32 / Page: 12
Head: Robert R WILLIAMS 29, China Potters Presser, [worker] b Longton Staffs
Wife: Annie WILLIAMS 26, b Longton Staffs
Son: Robert R WILLIAMS 2, b Fenton Staffs
Son: David WILLIAMS 1, b Fenton Staffs
Sister: Mary TOMLINSON 14, Potter's Handler [worker], b Longton Staffs
Brother: William TOMLINSON 12, b Longton Staffs
MARRIAGE: Stoke on Trent - Mar Qtr 1897 - 6b 325
Robert Richard WILLIAMS and Annie TOMLINSON on same page
Cannot find father Richard on 1901 - think he died (and his wife is in Derbyshire 1901 as a widow - see reply#4 below)
DEATH: Richard TOMLINSON age 49 (b abt 1848) - Stoke on Trent - Mar Qtr 1897 - 6b 81
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AMBLY
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AMBLY
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1881: 58 Russell Street, Village of Dresden, Parish of Trentham, Staffordshire
RG11 / Piece: 2695 / Folio: 137 / Page: 39
Head: Richard TOMLINSON 33, Potters Labourer
Wife: Elizabeth TOMLINSON 32,
Dau: Emily A TOMLINSON 9,
Dau: Annie TOMLINSON 7,
Dau: Elizabert (sic) TOMLINSON 1,
Mother-In-Law: Mary HURST 60, widow, Potter's Paintress
All have "N.K. Staffs" as place of birth (N.K. = Not Known)
MARRIAGE:Mar Qtr 1870 - Stoke on Trent - 6b 234
Richard TOMLINSON and Elizabeth BROWN on same page
Not sure if this is them....
1871:13 Heaths Passage, Longton, Stoke on Trent, Staffordshire
Head: John TOMLINSON 30, unm, Potter
Mother: Mary HURST 53, widow, Potters Paintress,
Sister: Mary HURST 14, Potter
Adopted: George CLAY 6,
Nephew: William SHAW 23, unm, Potter
ALL born Longton STAFFS
I'd have to wonder - if someone else (a neighbour?) of the TOMLINSON's in 1881 gave the Census information and a) wasn't sure of where in Staffs they were all born and b) wasn't aware that Mary HURST was actually Richard's mother, not Elizabeths? Especially since the most likely marriage has Elizabeth as surname BROWN. "Mother-in-Law" could also be a term meant to mean "Step-Mother".
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AMBLY
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AMBLY
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Richard's widow Elizabeth is in Derbyshire in 1901, in the same household as her now married daughter Louisa. There is also what appears to be another child for Elizabeth & Richard, born after the 1891 Census.
1901: Petticoat Lane - Bolsover, Derbyshire
RG13 / Piece: 3254 / Folio: 132 / Page: 45
Head: Edward DEAKER 31, Coal Miner Hewer below ground , b Fenton Staffs
Wife: Eliza Ann DEAKER 26, b Fenton Staffs
Son: Harry (or Harvey?) DEAKER 5, b Poolsbrook, Derbys.
Dau: Martha E DEAKER 4, b Fenton Staffs
Dau: Gertrude DEAKER 2, b Bolsover, Derbys.
Dau: Gladys H DEAKER 2 mths, b Bolover, Derbys
Boarder: Henry J RYLES 21, married, Onssetter Coal Miner below ground, b Fenton Staffs
Boarder: Louisa RYLES 18, married, b Longton Staffs
Visitor: Elizabeth TOMLINSON 53, widow, b Longton Staffs
Visitor: Lawrence TOMLINSON 7, b Longton Staffs
MARRIAGE: Dec Qtr 1900 - Mansfield (border District Derbys. and Notts) - 7b 134
Henry John RYLES and Louisa TOMLINSON on same page
I think the baby, Richard TOMLINSON age 3 mths on the 1891, son of Richard and Elizabeth - might have died in 1895. I can't find him on the 1901?
DEATH: Richard TOMLINSON age 4 - Stone 6b 29 - Dec Qtr 1895
And the year before:
BIRTH: Laurence TOMLINSON - Stone 6b 41 - Sep Qtr 1893
Cheers
AMBLY
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1861: 112 Normacott Road, Longton,Stoke on Trent, Staffordshire
RG9 / Piece: 1943 / Folio: 60 / Page: 6
Head: Hannah SHAW 49, widow, Potters Scourer
Son: William SHAW 14, Assists a potters Fireman
Dau: Unos SHAW 16, Assists a potters Turner
Dau: Sarah SHAW 11, Assists a potters Turner (or Fireman?)
Boarder: John TOMLINSON 19, unm, Potters Fireman
Boarder: Robert KENT 40, unm, Potters Handler
ALL born Longton Staffs
1861: Lansdown Street - Town of Dresden,Parish of Trentham, Staffordshire
RG9 / Piece: 1914 / Folio: 85 / Page: 4
Head: Lewis HURST 43, Potter Saucer maker
Wife: Mary HURST 42, Potter Painter
Son: Richard HURST 13, Potter Presser, (aka : born Richard TOMLINSON)
Dau: Ann HURST 8,
Dau: Mary HURST 3,
ALL born Longton Staffs
MARRIAGE: Sep Qtr 1850 - Stoke on Trent - V17, pg 218
Lewis HURST and Mary TOMLINSON on the same page
1851: York Street - Town of Longton, Stoke on Trent, Staffordshire
HO107 / Piece: 2007 / Folio: 245 / Page: 34 (poor quality image)
Head: Lewis HURST 21, Potter Saucer maker,
Wife: Mary HURST 28, Potter painter,
Son: John TOMLINSON 7 (9?), Potter ------er?
Son: Rich'd TOMLINSON 4, Scholar,
ALL born Longton
Was Mary HURST was first married to Richard TOMLINSON before she married Lewis HURST?
Noting the 12 year age disparity for Lewis between 1851 which clearly says age 21 while the 1861 (if it's the same man) clearly says age 43. Mary's age is also 'out' but less so at 28 in 1851 and 42 in 1861 (4 year difference)
In 1841, there is an 11 yr old Lewis Hurst in Lane End Longton - seeming mother named Ann.
HO107 / Piece 991 / Book: 7 / Folio: 7 / Page: 7
http://www.thepotteries.org/location/longton/longton.html
In March, 1865. Longton and Lane End were incorporated as the Borough of Longton ('long village'
IGI: Extracted entries
John TOMLINSON - chr 20 Dec 1841, Lane End Staffs
Richard TOMLINSON - chr 20 Aug 1848, Lane End, Staffs
Parents: Richard TOMLINSON and Mary
But having trouble finding anything on marriage or 1841 for Richard and Mary
Cheers
AMBLY
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