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Topic: surname Richmond from Maybole is anyone researching them (Read 491 times)
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Sonrichard
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Alexander Richmond married Margaret Telfer in feb 1842 at Maybole. In the mid 1850's they shifted to Tamworth Staffordshire. Is there anyone maybe following that family? Cheers
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jonn
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Hello Sonrichard,
Alexander Richmond, actually married Margaret Telfer, 06/Feb/1842, St.Quivox, and Newton, Ayr.
This is in the town of Ayr, and not Maybole, which is South of Ayr.
The couple are living in Maybole, by 1851. here they are in this cencus.
Laigh Culzean Cottage,
Alexander Richmond, age 35 years, Farm Labourer, born, Ayr,
Margaret Richmond, age 34 years, born Monkton, Ayr,
John Richmond, son, age 16 years, born Maybole, Ayr,
Margaret Richmond, Daur, age 14 years, born Symington, Ayr,
James Richmond, son, age 8 years, born, Maybole, Ayr,
Andrew Richmond, son, age 6 years, born, Maybole, Ayr,
Alexander Richmond, son, age 3 years, born, Kirkmichael, Ayr,
William Richmond, son, age 1 year, born, Maybole, Ayr.
It looks to me that Alexander, has possibly been married to someone prior to his marriage to Margaret Telfer, the two older children, were born long before their marriage in 1842. and the big gap between Margaret and James.
There also seems to be another child Grace Richmond, born after the census, 21/March/1852, Free Church, Maybole.
Regards,
Jonn.
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Sonrichard
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Thank you John for that. I always suspected that Alexander may hav e been married before Margaret Telfer. I think his first wife was probably Margaret Bland. One time when searching the 1881 census when I clicked on household I got Bland and then on another occesion got Telfer. Yes after Grace there followed David, George and Hugh. Have been able to track them from 1855 when they were in UK. What was happening in Ayrshire in the 1850's that would make a whole family up and shift to England, have always been curious about that. Cheers Clare
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MonicaLesl
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Hi Sonrichard
Someone else has been researching this family in the last couple of days. I've been doing a little bit of work on this today. It would seem that Margaret Telfer/Telford was the one that was married before her marriage to Alexander Richmond. Her first marriage looks to have been to an Andrew Thomson who is likely to have died just before the 1841 census. Young daughter Margaret (Thomson) who shows under her mother's new married name of Richmond in 1851, shows in 1841 in Monkton Village at likely maternal grandparents James Telford and Grace (Giffen).
I've been hunting on the 1861 census onwards for reference to the Richmond family and from your posts now see why I was getting nowhere!
I'll let the other RC member know of your post and perhaps you can compare notes.
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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hmcmillan29
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Hi Sonrichard,
I am the very fortunate person that Monica has been helping today. She has been a wonderful help to me in the search of my ancestors.
I am researching this family now although I am descended from Margaret Thomson. Alexander Richmond was her Step Father.
I am still in the process of compiling my notes from today and continuing the research that Monica very kindly has done so far, but would very much like to see what you have found out about the family.
Look forward to hearing from you.
Hazel
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Huguenots, Silk weavers, Bethnal Green, Mdx
Sharpe - Bethnal Green, Mdx
Painel/Painell/Pennel - Bethnal Green, Mdx
McMillan - Kilmarnock, Beith, Kilbirnie (all Ayrshire), Glasgow, Ireland
Young - Beith, Kilbirnie, Ayrshire
Hamilton - Glasgow, Midlothian
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Sonrichard
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Had given up of anyone contacting me re richmond's. I always suspected that there was a second marriage somewhere but had put in down to Alexander marrying twice. I have John and Margaret in the 1851 census with Alex and Margaret followed by 4 other siblings. refer to messages above to get full family. By the 1861 census they were living in Stafford - minus John and Margaret who would have been in their early 20's and probably stayed in scotland. However, you will know more about them than me. I believe the parents of Alex were Andrew and Margaret Drennan. We have family tree on a Legacy Chart, could send it to you if you are interested. We live in NZ. My husband is the grandson of David R. born in 1854
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jonn
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Hello All,
The Margaret Telfer, who married Alexander Richmond, was actually born 17/March/1816. Monkton, Ayr, to parents James Telfer, and Grizel Govan.
James Telfer/Telford, married Grizel Giffins, 24/May/1806. St. Quivox, Ayr.
Other children to this couple were,
Agnes Telfer, born 10/June/1808. Monkton, Ayr,
Jean Telfer, born 26/May/1818. Monkton, Ayr,
John Telfer, born abt 1815, Monkton, Ayr.
You will find the names Telfer, also as Telford, also the name Giffins, as Govan, and other Variations.
Also the forenames Grizel, and Grace, were interchangeable.
Hope this helps with your research.
Regarda,
Jonn.
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MonicaLesl
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That's great Jonn  Ties up with all the info that has been found. There's full details on the Telfer/Telford and Richmond line on Ancestry trees...which I found after 
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Sonrichard
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Sunday morning here in beautiful NZ. Have I got this right, was Margaret Telfer previously married to Thomson and John and Margaret are children of that marriage? Your connection is through the Thomson line? Not sure how I can attach family tree to this type of correspondence. Clare R.
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MonicaLesl
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Hi Clare
You and Hazel will need to exchange personal emails via the Private Messaging system and this way be able to exchange this type of info
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Sonrichard
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Monica, I'm very new to this, how do I do a PM?
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MonicaLesl
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A number of ways of sending one. You can click on the small green scroll on the l/h side of someone's post. This will take you straight through to the PM service. You can also click on the person's name on the l/h side of their post which takes you through to their profile. At the botton of the page, under Additional Information, is 'Do you want to send this RootsChatter a message', again this takes you through to the PM service.
The PM services works very much like a email account. You will get notification of a PM message. You can always access your PM service by going up to the top of the screen where it says: Welcome back, xxxx, you have xx messages, x are new. Click on that and this will take you to your 'account'.
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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