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Topic: William Tolley Marriage, Mary Ann (Read 567 times)
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truebritmega
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hi there, Im trying to find the marriage of a William Tolley, born 1860 Pattingham,Staffordshire,father, thomas tolley, to a Mary ann,
I have found a marriage in 1890, to an ann green? but im thinking thats not the one as the latest census has william write his wifes name as Mary Ann...
That marriage is in Bilston which is also where william did move to later on....
but im thinking as william had wrote himself that his wifes name was Mary Ann, then thats what it will be?
Any ideas? can anyone find a William tolley marrying a Mary Ann? i cant:(
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Smith, Tolley, Griffiths,
Monaghan, Richards, Clark, Clarke,
Brazier, Filben, Fibben,Filbin
Sherdon, Churden,Sheldon
Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, Bilston, Kent, London, Middlesex
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truebritmega
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I have the mary on on the 1911, so thats why i was thinking a mary ann was fairly certain?... but yes I guess he could have been married before too? one of his daughters is ethel, born 1891-3 (1891 on her marriage cert, 1893 in the 1911 census) and hmmm the harriet maria, he did have a sister, maria....
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Smith, Tolley, Griffiths,
Monaghan, Richards, Clark, Clarke,
Brazier, Filben, Fibben,Filbin
Sherdon, Churden,Sheldon
Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, Bilston, Kent, London, Middlesex
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truebritmega
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oops i meant hannah maria there, not harriet lol (dunno where i got harriet from LOL)
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Tati
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How long does it say William and Mary have been married in 1911?
I gather you don't have the 1891 details?
1891
RG12/2244 21 39
Bilston, Staffordshire
4 Fleet St
William Tolley, head, 31, General Laborer, b. Pattingham
Ann, wife, 30, b. Wolverhampton
Harry Green, stepson, 9, b. Bilston
William Tolley, son, 4, b. do.
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"My dear, I think the English pronounce it 'appiness" Desire and hunger is the fire I breathe Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Tati
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She's Mary Ann in 1901, apparently
1901
RG13/2691 42 7
Bilston, Staffordshire
68 Wolverhampton St
William Talley, head, 41, (something) Wheeler Ironworks, b. Pattingham
Mary Ann, wife, 40, b. Bilston
Samuel Green, stepson, 21, (something) steel worker, b. Bilston
Henry Green, stepson, 19, Boiler Fireman Steel Worker, b. do.
Mary Ann Green, stepdau, 17, b. do.
Lucy Maud Green, stepdau, 13, b. do.
William Talley, son, 14, Errand Boy, b. Westfield
Ethel, dau, 8, b. Bilston
Nellie, dau, 4, b. do.
+ a boarder Murray John, age 23
Let's see where the other Green children were in 1891 ...
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truebritmega
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oooh that does sound very very very much like em yes! and no i only have the 1911 details, hmmm looks how long they were married
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truebritmega
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1911 has it down as they were married 20 years, there are 7 children in total but 3 died
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Tati
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20 years sounds spot on! 
I'm guessing this is (Mary) Ann's mother
1891
RG12/2244 84 3
Wolverhampton St, Bilston
Sarah Murray, head, wid, 57, Bilston
Robert Rowson, boarder, wid, 60, Iron Pudler, b. Salop Shropshire
John Murray, son, 13, b. Bilston
Lucy Green, granddau, 7, b. do.
Mary Ann Gren, granddau, 5, b. do.
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truebritmega
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so it looks like my mary ann.... is the same as the ann green marriage i have tracked? thats what was bugging me, why she was mary ann... but ann in the marriage details?
But as there are "greens" living in the tolley house, i guess it has to be that mary ann, and ann are the same person? (sorry i know im just thick lol )
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truebritmega
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yes! it must be them! because I just re stared at your 1901 part, and william is a something wheeler, is the missing word "ash" ? for his daughters marriage cert lists william(her father) as an "ash wheeler" and 1911 has him as an ash wheeler, ironworks
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Tati
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I have no doubt he's the same man - there aren't many William Tolleys born 1860 Pattingham!
1881 proves the link between Mary Ann and the Murrays, and shows her first husband:
RG11/2816 66 3
Bilston, Staffordshire
103 Wolverhampton St
Patrick Murray, head, 47, Puddler, b. Ireland Dublin
Sarah, wife, 46, b. Staffs Walsall
John, son, 3, b. Bilston
George Green, son in law, mar, 31, Ironworks Shingler, b. do.
Mary a Green, dau, mar, 20, b. do.
Richard S Green, son, 1, b. do. (I suppose this is Samuel)
PS. Yes, I think it says Ash Wheeler in 1901
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truebritmega
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sorry, im a lil thick lol (and I have tonnes of dates names etc in my head from other lines right now)...
So mary, or mary ann green, her mother... hmmm had a first husband of Murray, who died... then she married a green?
or is it mary anne herself?... sorry to be so dense lol
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