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Topic: Florence Cartwright -Robert Dines (Dynes) (Read 484 times)
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avm228
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For some reason Wilfrid/Wilfred Holden's death on CWGC seems to be recorded as J.H. Holden (the other details all match those found above by posteria):
http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=602283
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Ayr: Barnes, Wylie Caithness: MacGregor Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh) Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb) Hants: Stares (Wickham) Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton) London: Pierce Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham) Surrey: Gosling (Richmond) Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute) Worcs: Milward (Redditch) Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)
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avm228
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I wonder what an Orchardist is?
A person who farms/cultivates an orchard, I expect. Not a million miles from the occupation of "farmer" on Robert I. Dines' 1920 emigration record (on which, incidentally, there is no Florence Dines listed).
There's no obvious evidence to suggest that Florence and Robert married or even met in England - they might have found each other Down Under...
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Ayr: Barnes, Wylie Caithness: MacGregor Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh) Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb) Hants: Stares (Wickham) Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton) London: Pierce Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham) Surrey: Gosling (Richmond) Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute) Worcs: Milward (Redditch) Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)
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henery
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Posteria Thanks again, for some reason when looking for Wilfred Holden on Freebmd I could not find the marriage, but 'Hey Presto' looking for Florence there it was. Henery
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avm228
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when looking for Wilfred Holden on Freebmd I could not find the marriage, but 'Hey Presto' looking for Florence there it was.
Perhaps you typed in Wilfred - he's down as Wilfrid
Anna (not posteria )
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Ayr: Barnes, Wylie Caithness: MacGregor Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh) Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb) Hants: Stares (Wickham) Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton) London: Pierce Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham) Surrey: Gosling (Richmond) Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute) Worcs: Milward (Redditch) Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)
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henery
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Thanks anna for repliywhen looking for Wilfred Holden on Freebmd I could not find the marriage, but 'Hey Presto' looking for Florence there it was.
Perhaps you typed in Wilfred - he's down as WilfridAnna (not posteria  ) no. 18
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posteria
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On 31/03/1925 Florence Dines (age shown as 36) returned to Australia. She travelled on the "Hobsons Bay" from London to Melbourne. Her occupation is given as “Home Duties” and her last address in UK was “Rothsay”, Chandler’s Ford, Southampton - which seems to confirm that the lady who arrived in 1924 was the correct person.
Incidentally, Robert Imrie Dines does appear on the 1901 census with his parents and two siblings but on Ancestry (everyone will be amazed to learn) their surname has been mistranscribed. They all suffered from a case of transposed vowels. According to the census, he was born in Kilburn.
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posteria
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On 8th February 1922 a Mrs Florence Holden (shown as aged 33) sailed from London to Melbourne on the “Berrima”. Her last address in UK is given as Manor Farm, Squirrels Heath, Romford.
This might not be the correct lady but she seems to be the only possible “fit” on the passenger lists that I can see.
The Dines family were living in Romford in 1901 but they were all in Dartford, Kent in 1911.
If this is the correct lady, then we would need to find a marriage in Australia from 1922 to 1924 inclusive.
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posteria
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On 9th June 1949, a Florence Dines, Widow, aged 65 sailed from London to Melbourne on the “Strathaird“. Her last address in UK is shown as Carinja, Berrynarbor (wherever that might be ?).
This could possibly be your lady and I have not found a record of her coming back, as yet.
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dee melody
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Posteria, Berrynabor is near Ilfracombe, Devon.
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukMelody: Carrick, Attymass, Ballina, County Mayo Cassidy:Mayo/Leitrim Granaghan: Crossmolina, County Mayo Mullens: Kensington, London
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henery
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Hello posteria You seem to have located Florence correctly. Ilfracombe North Devon is the last known family memory. Thanks Dee for your contribution re: Berrynabor.
The Naa.au. site you gave gives details of evidence to the Enquiry commission. Thanks for all your efforts in this involved investigation involving two continents. Henery
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