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Mum44
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Re: Robert Holt & Nancy?
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 17 June 09 19:28 UTC (UK) »

marriage freeBMD
Jun qtr 1883
Manchester
Thomas Ronbinson
mary Gough
8d 333

1891 stepson John Gough age 9 is with the family


Mary's son  - she was either married before, or the lad was illigitimate Undecided

The marriage certificate will say whether she was a widow or spinster   Wink
Suz

Why a stepson? Any idea?

Soorry  -  sticky keys   Roll Eyes

John was Mary's son  -  either she was married previously or the lad was illigitimate   Undecided    Their marriage certificate will tell you whether she was a widow or a spinster   Wink
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Re: Robert Holt & Nancy?
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 17 June 09 19:41 UTC (UK) »

Excellent,

I get it!!

I have Eliza as Elizabeth as I have a letter from my Great....etc 'Saran' Sarah Ann to 'Mathan' as they are called my some members of the family.

What we didnt know is he re-married how excellent is that, although terrible at the same time. Any idea how Elizabeth died? Would this be on the death certificate and could that be purchased?

Dave
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Re: Robert Holt & Nancy?
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 17 June 09 19:47 UTC (UK) »

IF that was your John Unwin - Lancashire BMD marriage 1890 to Eliza Getliffe.

Am I right?

Name:   Eliza Getliffe
Year of Registration:   1890
Quarter of Registration:   Oct-Nov-Dec
District:   Chorlton
County:   Lancashire
Volume:   8c
Page:   1077 .
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Re: Robert Holt & Nancy?
« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 17 June 09 19:48 UTC (UK) »


Dave  -  you can buy copies of birth,  marriage and death certificates   Smiley


http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/


You will need the gro reference numbers, the quarter and year, and the registration district.

They are £7.00 each.
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Re: Robert Holt & Nancy?
« Reply #19 on: Wednesday 17 June 09 19:55 UTC (UK) »

Dave,

was your Thomas married before? There are older Robinson children with him and Mary E in 1891:
Thomas and Mary E - both aged 13 yrs  Huh I was thinking that it was an error but they both have jobs  Undecided
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Re: Robert Holt & Nancy?
« Reply #20 on: Wednesday 17 June 09 20:08 UTC (UK) »

I think he must have been: I know he has these children to Mary E Gough:

Daniel Robinson
1886 – 

William Robinson
1887 – 

Hannah Robinson
1889 – 

Deborah Robinson
1893 – 1963

Martha Robinson
1896 – 

and must have these below to an unknown spouse...

Thomas Robinson
1878 – 
Mary E Robinson
1878 – 
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Re: Robert Holt & Nancy?
« Reply #21 on: Wednesday 17 June 09 20:37 UTC (UK) »

3) William Taylor B: about 1857, Northwich, Cheshire, England married to Caroline ? B: about 1858, Northwich, Cheshire, England.

I haven't found a marriage to Caroline, but I think he was married to Agnes in 1891.

1880 Agnes FERGUSON Manchester, Gorton, St. James

Class: RG11; Piece: 3902; Folio: 72; Page: 22
Class: RG12; Piece: 3171; Folio 136; Page 18
Class: RG13; Piece: 3688; Folio: 66; Page: 26

Deryck

Im not so sure.

I know that William Taylor and Caroline 1858 - had the following children:

Caroline Taylor 1882 – 

George Taylor 1883 – 

William Taylor 1885 – 

David Taylor 1887 – 

Albert Taylor 1891 – 

Tom Taylor 1893 – 

Hester Taylor 1895 – 

I have them living at 1901 census at Chorlton. Tom Taylor was 8 at the time.
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Re: Robert Holt & Nancy?
« Reply #22 on: Wednesday 17 June 09 20:48 UTC (UK) »

I am going back further with Nancy Goodwin B:1853 in Matlock, Derbyshire, and am looking at the 1891 census.

Joshua Holt   76
Eliza Holt           64
Nancy Holt   38
Sarah Holt           36

This looks like a good match? Would you agree?

As for Robert Holt? I believe his father could be John Holt
B: about 1830 in Newton Heath, Lancashire, England who married Martha Whitehead Birth: 1834
Newton Heath, Lancashire, England

Would you agree fellow genealogist masters?

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Re: Robert Holt & Nancy?
« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 17 June 09 20:50 UTC (UK) »

3) William Taylor B: about 1857, Northwich, Cheshire, England married to Caroline ? B: about 1858, Northwich, Cheshire, England.

I haven't found a marriage to Caroline, but I think he was married to Agnes in 1891.

1880 Agnes FERGUSON Manchester, Gorton, St. James

Class: RG11; Piece: 3902; Folio: 72; Page: 22
Class: RG12; Piece: 3171; Folio 136; Page 18
Class: RG13; Piece: 3688; Folio: 66; Page: 26

Deryck

Im not so sure.

I know that William Taylor and Caroline 1858 - had the following children:

Caroline Taylor 1882 – 

George Taylor 1883 – 

William Taylor 1885 – 

David Taylor 1887 – 

Albert Taylor 1891 – 

Tom Taylor 1893 – 

Hester Taylor 1895 – 

I have them living at 1901 census at Chorlton. Tom Taylor was 8 at the time.

She's Agnes in 1891  Undecided
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Re: Robert Holt & Nancy?
« Reply #24 on: Wednesday 17 June 09 20:59 UTC (UK) »

I know!

Is it the same person?
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Re: Robert Holt & Nancy?
« Reply #25 on: Wednesday 17 June 09 21:03 UTC (UK) »

I am going back further with Nancy Goodwin B:1853 in Matlock, Derbyshire, and am looking at the 1891 census.

Joshua Holt   76
Eliza Holt           64
Nancy Holt   38
Sarah Holt           36

This looks like a good match? Would you agree?

As for Robert Holt? I believe his father could be John Holt
B: about 1830 in Newton Heath, Lancashire, England who married Martha Whitehead Birth: 1834
Newton Heath, Lancashire, England

Would you agree fellow genealogist masters?


You've lost me here

1891 RG12; Piece: 3175; Folio 24; Page 41

Robert and Nancy are here - so not sure what Joshua et al have to do with this.
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Re: Robert Holt & Nancy?
« Reply #26 on: Wednesday 17 June 09 21:04 UTC (UK) »

I have a Caroline being the wife of William.

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Re: Robert Holt & Nancy?
« Reply #27 on: Wednesday 17 June 09 21:10 UTC (UK) »

It is a coincidence that first child is also named Caroline.

1881 and 1891 have Agnes born Corfu /Corfe - she is a British Subject according to 1881 (I think it was).

It may be that she has both names and wants to call herself by a preferred name. Have you any family evidence from later years or have you checked 1911 index or census?
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Re: Robert Holt & Nancy?
« Reply #28 on: Wednesday 17 June 09 21:14 UTC (UK) »

No but what fantastic work I am impressed.

The 1901 Census however has two definite Caroline's, so is she really Agnes or Caroline? No I have not got access to 1911 census?

William Taylor   44
Caroline Taylor   43
Caroline Taylor   19
George Taylor   18
William Taylor   16
David Taylor   14
Albert Taylor   10
Tom Taylor   8
Hester Taylor   6
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Re: Robert Holt & Nancy?
« Reply #29 on: Wednesday 17 June 09 21:21 UTC (UK) »


Or maybe Agnes died and Caroline was William's second wife   Undecided  

David  -  I think you need to slow down a bit   Smiley

We are looking at four different families all at the same time,  and swapping between them between posts   Undecided  and then going back on one line and changing to the next....

I'm getting confused  -  I really think it would be best to concentrate on one line at a time  -   Cheesy  Sort out all the anomalies in that family, and then move on to the next one  Wink

What do you think, Heywood   Huh  Cheesy

PS: David  -  cutting and pasting is not allowed   Shocked    
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