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Davidjnr
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Whitehead Linage
« on: Wednesday 17 June 09 20:56 UTC (UK) »

Would my fellow geneologists check out my research on another side of my family: the Whiteheads.

Caroline Whitehead B: about 1900 in Failsworth, Lancashire, England 
D: Mar 1980
Residence 1901 - Class: RG13; Piece: 3772; Folio: 59; Page: 25.

I have her parents as Richard Whitehead B:1833 in Bradford, Lancashire,
England and Elizabeth ? B:1840 in Pendleton, Lancashire, England

Richard I have traced to John WHITEHEAD B:1804 in Manchester, Lancashire, , England  and D:1874 in Bradford, Lancashire, , England

What do you think?

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Re: Whitehead Linage
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 17 June 09 21:19 UTC (UK) »

At first sight, I think a woman born ca. 1840 was slightly too mature to give birth in 1900  Tongue

The 1901 census shows parents William age 29 and Matilda age 25.

1901
RG13/3772 59 25
Failsworth, Lancashire
16 Hale Lane

William Whitehead, head, 29, Painters? Burner Off (??), b. Failsworth
Matilda, wife, 25, Cotton Spinner, b. Droylsden
Matilda, dau, 5, b. Failsworth
William, son, 1, b. do.
Caroline, dau, 6 mo, b. do.
Frances H Ingham, mother in law, 61, b. Notts Nottingham
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Re: Whitehead Linage
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 17 June 09 21:28 UTC (UK) »

A quick census search seems to show that William belonged to this couple:

1881
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1881&indiv=try&h=10918103
RG11/4028 150 35

(He's not with them in 1881 but he was in 1871: RG10/4065 17 33)

(Edit 3 Oct: Just checked that and he appears to be 10 years too old! Think we can definitely scrap him then!)
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Re: Whitehead Linage
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 17 June 09 22:01 UTC (UK) »

I agree but his wife Elizabeth has had me stumped for 2 days!

Must focus on Agnes/Caroline on Robert Nancy Post first before I carry on here.
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Re: Whitehead Linage
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 18 June 09 07:20 UTC (UK) »

I agree but his wife Elizabeth has had me stumped for 2 days!
Stuck for 2 days, so you chose a different set of parents?  Grin Grin Grin 

OK, which Elizabeth was this - the one married to a Richard from Bradford, or the one who seems to have actually been Caroline's grandmother?  Smiley

I'm afraid that with a name as common as Whitehead, it's not impossible that you might have to get hold of a few certificates at some point Undecided

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Re: Whitehead Linage
« Reply #5 on: Friday 19 June 09 09:59 UTC (UK) »

So William Whitehead married a Francies H Ingham, any idea who her relatives are?
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Re: Whitehead Linage
« Reply #6 on: Friday 19 June 09 11:27 UTC (UK) »

I think he married his wife rather than his mother in law  Wink

Marriage Dec 1893
Manchester 8d 337
Matilda Ingham - William Whitehead

Have you identified Matilda in 1881 yet?  Smiley
http://www.rootschat.com/links/06iu/
RG11/ 4028 121 20

 
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Re: Whitehead Linage
« Reply #7 on: Friday 19 June 09 11:36 UTC (UK) »

I'm guessing that Frances' middle name was Harriett and this is the same family in 1871 ...

1871
RG10/4551 64 31
Leeds, Yorkshire
29 Old Post Office Yard

Harriet Ingham, lodger, mar, 30, Winder, b. Nottingham
Henry Ingham, lodger, 8, b. do.
Bertha Ingham, lodger, 5, b. do.
Johnas Ingham, lodger, 3, b. do.

It's not clear who the head of the household is in this household full of lodgers. No other Ingham there anyway! 

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Re: Whitehead Linage
« Reply #8 on: Friday 19 June 09 11:39 UTC (UK) »

No

where would you suggest I go from
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Re: Whitehead Linage
« Reply #9 on: Friday 19 June 09 11:41 UTC (UK) »

I can see only one matching marriage on FreeBMD:

Sep 1861 Nottingham 7b 272
Thomas Ingham to possibly Frances Harriett Hardisty

and there is a Frances Harriet Hardisty birth registered in Dec 1839 Nottingham.

Matilda's birth cert would show whether Thomas Ingham was her father. From there, the Hardisty/Ingham marriage would tell us more about Thomas but I'll first have a look if I can spot a likely candidate on a census.
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Re: Whitehead Linage
« Reply #10 on: Friday 19 June 09 11:58 UTC (UK) »

Hmm. There's one Thomas Ingham who could fit the bill, living in Nottingham St Mary in 1861:

1861
RG9/2461 57 21
Nottingham St Mary
7 Cherry St

Elizebeth Ingham, head, wid, 45, Cotton Spinner
Thomas, son, 19, Dyer
Sophia, dau, 14
Mary, dau, 10 mo, b. Nottingham St Mary

No birth places shown in 1861 but according to 1851 (unfortunately a very faint image), Thomas was born in Edingley Notts and his Father was Frederick born Nottingham ca. 1815.

Try as I might, I can't find this Thomas in 1871 though  Undecided
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Re: Whitehead Linage
« Reply #11 on: Friday 19 June 09 23:55 UTC (UK) »

I've Been looking as well, should I try tommy, tom etc?
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Re: Whitehead Linage
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 20 June 09 07:33 UTC (UK) »

Yes, everything is worth trying - I searched even without a first name at all but am not able to identify him. On the other hand, it's not impossible that the census is wrong and Frances/Harriett was already widowed, reason why a birth cert for Matilda seems a good idea to me.

I *might* have identified Frances Harriett in 1841 and 1851:

1841
HO107/869/13 21 37
Nottingham St Mary
Yard Rd

Ann Billyard, 70, not born in county
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Harriott Hardisty, 20, not born in county
Fanny Hardisty, 19 mo, not born in county

1851
HO107/2131 354 37
Nottingham St Mary
Fredvill? St

John Hardisty, head, 32, French Polisher, b. Hinkley?
Harriott, wife, 34, Lace Carder, b. Nottingham
Fanny, dau, 11, Lace Dresser, b. do.
John, son, 9, b. do.
Elizabeth, dau, 4, b. do.
Ann, dau, 8 mo, b. do.

Ann Billyard shown in 1841 might be related - there's a marriage
Harriett Billyeald to possibly John Hardisty, Mar 1839 Radford 15 721
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Re: Whitehead Linage
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 23 June 09 23:27 UTC (UK) »

Before I order the birth Certificate of Matilda Ingham to confirm parents names and occupation would you agree with this search:

Matilda Ingham'S Birth Certificate:

1876 in Jan-Feb-Mar
Rochdale, Greater Manchester, Lancashire
Volume 8e and Page 17

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Re: Whitehead Linage
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 24 June 09 06:55 UTC (UK) »

Hi David,

Matilda's birth place is consistently Droylsden, and Droylsden apparently registers in Ashton under Lyne*, therefore this one seems more likely to me:

Matilda Ingham
Jun 1875 Ashton Under Lyne 8d 485

*here's a knowledgeable site to bookmark for you Cool
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/civreg/places/
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