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hedwig06
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Re: James Mernagh
« Reply #15 on: Monday 12 October 09 17:04 UTC (UK) »
Everyone,

Thank you so much.

I have been having difficulty finding any Mernagh's, so any help is great, I have tried, (I think) every link on the Mayo resources page here at Rootschat, without success, but obviously I will have to try searching other areas of Ireland.

I have found 2 births for James and Charlotte Mernagh's children, Charlotte Mernagh 1869 and Catherine Mernagh 1870, both on mayoancestors.com

As to the 2 Edward Mernagh's, I don't really know if they tie on with "my" family, and I suppose the only way is to buy the certificates.

Trust "my" Mernagh family to like travelling Grin

Thanks again everyone, your help is invaluable  Smiley
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Coldrick - Ladywood, Birmingham.
Spooner - Atherstone & Wigan.
Mernagh - Birmingham & Ireland.
Potter - Birmingham.
Blair - Birmingham & Scotland.
Hull - Wigan.
Purdham - Wigan.
aghadowey
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Re: James Mernagh
« Reply #16 on: Monday 12 October 09 17:47 UTC (UK) »
The 2 Edward Mernaghs found earlier are in IGI but I can't see a connection with your family yet so I wouldn't rush to get the certificates just yet but the marriage Shane found is worth considering.
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shanew147
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Re: James Mernagh
« Reply #17 on: Monday 12 October 09 18:02 UTC (UK) »
Quote from: hedwig06 on Sunday 11 October 09 11:59 UTC (UK)
I wondered if someone could help me....

I have a James Thomas Mernagh born c1846 County Mayo - information from the English census's. First appears on the 1881 English census.

He marries in Rathdown 1868 to Birmingham born Charlotte Bowley, (I found this info off mayoancestors.com)

did James and Charlotte have any children born in England ?

if they did then you could confirm Charlotte's maiden name from a birth cert 

what does Charlotte give as her place of birth on the census ?



Shane
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Wilson : Cambridgeshire [Chatteris], Yorkshire [Leeds], Dublin & Australia [Sydney/NSW] | Fitzsimon : Bray, Co. Wicklow & South Co. Dublin
Hayes, Shepherd, Bickerdike, Render, Harper : Yorkshire | Doyle, Dillon, Cantwell, Roach, Clarke  : Co. Wicklow
Cathcart, Wilson : Kings Co./Offaly, Dublin City & N. Ireland | Hodges : Bristol, Glos./Bray Co. Wicklow/Dublin City | Nevin : Cork
Sheridan : Dublin City | Kavanagh, Rooney, Clarke, Hughes, May, Monks : North Co. Dublin  [Rush/Thomastown]
hedwig06
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Re: James Mernagh
« Reply #18 on: Monday 12 October 09 18:35 UTC (UK) »
Shane,

I have found Charlotte's maiden name, its Bowley from mayoancestors.com.
I have also found them on the 1881 census onwards living in Birmingham, where Charlotte states she was born. 

Its more James Mernagh's birth, so I can follow his family back, that I wanted to try and do.

Angi x
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Coldrick - Ladywood, Birmingham.
Spooner - Atherstone & Wigan.
Mernagh - Birmingham & Ireland.
Potter - Birmingham.
Blair - Birmingham & Scotland.
Hull - Wigan.
Purdham - Wigan.
shanew147
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Re: James Mernagh
« Reply #19 on: Monday 12 October 09 19:57 UTC (UK) »
I was just wondering if the maiden surname could be cross-checked using any English birth records based on the census information you already have  ... I'm a little worried that the marriage is quite a distance from Co. Mayo...

A marriage cert will give you James' residence, occupation, fathers name and occupation which should help track his birth...



Shane
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Wilson : Cambridgeshire [Chatteris], Yorkshire [Leeds], Dublin & Australia [Sydney/NSW] | Fitzsimon : Bray, Co. Wicklow & South Co. Dublin
Hayes, Shepherd, Bickerdike, Render, Harper : Yorkshire | Doyle, Dillon, Cantwell, Roach, Clarke  : Co. Wicklow
Cathcart, Wilson : Kings Co./Offaly, Dublin City & N. Ireland | Hodges : Bristol, Glos./Bray Co. Wicklow/Dublin City | Nevin : Cork
Sheridan : Dublin City | Kavanagh, Rooney, Clarke, Hughes, May, Monks : North Co. Dublin  [Rush/Thomastown]
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Re: James Mernagh
« Reply #20 on: Monday 12 October 09 20:22 UTC (UK) »
Hello everyone,

Catherine Elizabeth Mernagh's birth was registered in Ballinrobe area - I was wondering if James was in the Army perhaps? That could be a reason for their moving from one place to another in Ireland.
The marriage certificate would be a real help as Shane says.

best wishes
heywood
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Alexander, Suffolk and Lancashire; Ashworth,Whitworth, Grindrod Lancashire; Golden, Duffy County Mayo.
hedwig06
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Re: James Mernagh
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 13 October 09 10:02 UTC (UK) »
Heywood,

I had been thinking along the lines of James being in the army, or a profession that required alot of travelling.

What is becoming clear is I'm not going to be able to search for James, that easily Sad

As all the Irish boards, threads and resources say that you have to have an area to be able to search for Irish
families, as "my" James seems to be a traveller, thats not going to be easy Cheesy

Thanks everyone for all the input, thoughts and finds.  I will wait for James's marriage certificate to arrive and see if it helps.

Angi x
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Coldrick - Ladywood, Birmingham.
Spooner - Atherstone & Wigan.
Mernagh - Birmingham & Ireland.
Potter - Birmingham.
Blair - Birmingham & Scotland.
Hull - Wigan.
Purdham - Wigan.
heywood
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Re: James Mernagh
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 13 October 09 10:05 UTC (UK) »
That's the best bet!

As gorgeous as Mayo is, it would be a waste of time to go there if he was only passing through - as it were.

Please let us all know the results of the certificate.

best wishes
heywood

PS I looked for the Bowleys last night- they seem to disappear from English census - have you found them? (I was curious as to why Charlotte was in Ireland too  Wink)
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Alexander, Suffolk and Lancashire; Ashworth,Whitworth, Grindrod Lancashire; Golden, Duffy County Mayo.
shanew147
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Re: James Mernagh
« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 13 October 09 10:15 UTC (UK) »
I had a look at some trade directories, newspapers etc last night and saw reference of a couple of Bowley families in Dublin around the right time - one was a solicitor and other some sort of business selling hair dye and potions etc..  Angi let me know if these are of interest and will put the details together for you.

I also had a look though the various English census returns for James and family - 1881/91/01, and see confirmation of the Bowley connection through the nephew (Thomas) in 1891.



Shane
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Wilson : Cambridgeshire [Chatteris], Yorkshire [Leeds], Dublin & Australia [Sydney/NSW] | Fitzsimon : Bray, Co. Wicklow & South Co. Dublin
Hayes, Shepherd, Bickerdike, Render, Harper : Yorkshire | Doyle, Dillon, Cantwell, Roach, Clarke  : Co. Wicklow
Cathcart, Wilson : Kings Co./Offaly, Dublin City & N. Ireland | Hodges : Bristol, Glos./Bray Co. Wicklow/Dublin City | Nevin : Cork
Sheridan : Dublin City | Kavanagh, Rooney, Clarke, Hughes, May, Monks : North Co. Dublin  [Rush/Thomastown]
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Re: James Mernagh
« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 13 October 09 10:16 UTC (UK) »
Hi Shane,
I had James as a bricklayer, I think- is that right?
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Alexander, Suffolk and Lancashire; Ashworth,Whitworth, Grindrod Lancashire; Golden, Duffy County Mayo.
shanew147
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Re: James Mernagh
« Reply #25 on: Tuesday 13 October 09 10:29 UTC (UK) »
as far as I remember he was a Bricklayer/Labourer in 1881/91 and difficult to read in 1901 but something like Coalswader? 


Shane
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Wilson : Cambridgeshire [Chatteris], Yorkshire [Leeds], Dublin & Australia [Sydney/NSW] | Fitzsimon : Bray, Co. Wicklow & South Co. Dublin
Hayes, Shepherd, Bickerdike, Render, Harper : Yorkshire | Doyle, Dillon, Cantwell, Roach, Clarke  : Co. Wicklow
Cathcart, Wilson : Kings Co./Offaly, Dublin City & N. Ireland | Hodges : Bristol, Glos./Bray Co. Wicklow/Dublin City | Nevin : Cork
Sheridan : Dublin City | Kavanagh, Rooney, Clarke, Hughes, May, Monks : North Co. Dublin  [Rush/Thomastown]
hedwig06
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Re: James Mernagh
« Reply #26 on: Tuesday 13 October 09 10:30 UTC (UK) »
Heywood & Shane,

I also have James Bowley as a Bricklayer, (1851 census), they then disappear!!  I presume they didn't return to England at all apart from Charlotte.  Charlotte had 2 brother & a sister, which I cannot pinpoint a marriage for any of them on the English BDM's, or seem to find them on the English census's after 1851 either.

I haven't tried looking at deaths for any of them yet.

I am really curious as to why the Bowley family went over to Ireland, as the majority of people were coming to England from Ireland at that time - Weren't they Huh

As to the information you refer to Shane, I would love it if you didn't mind, it could hold some clues/ideas, even if they aren't my direct Bowley family.

Thanks for all your input.
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Coldrick - Ladywood, Birmingham.
Spooner - Atherstone & Wigan.
Mernagh - Birmingham & Ireland.
Potter - Birmingham.
Blair - Birmingham & Scotland.
Hull - Wigan.
Purdham - Wigan.
heywood
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Re: James Mernagh
« Reply #27 on: Tuesday 13 October 09 16:03 UTC (UK) »
There is a death for a James in 1859 so that is a possibility but it is too early for an age to be given.
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Alexander, Suffolk and Lancashire; Ashworth,Whitworth, Grindrod Lancashire; Golden, Duffy County Mayo.
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