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Topic: Mohamddin Peterson of Liverpool (Read 1291 times)
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sgrollitt
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I don't want to close the door yet on the possibility that my partner might be related to the famous and academic Peterson family of Scottish/Norweigan descent.
Her great-grandfather Gulam Mohamed could have had a relationship, even married, one of the daughters of John Peterson (merchant) and Grace Montford (nee Anderson). These daughters were:
- ANN PETERSON b.6 JUN 1845 in South Leith, Midlothian
- BARBARA MANN PETERSON b.29 NOV 1848 at Saint Cuthberts, Edinburgh, Midlothian
- MARGARET GRACE PETERSON b.25 NOV 1862 at Saint Cuthberts, Edinburgh, Midlothian
- GUILILMA FRANCES PETERSON b.17 MAR 1869 at Saint Cuthberts, Edinburgh, Midlothian
Date-wise, the last two seem most likely, but I can't find any more information about them.
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avm228
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This continues to be a fascinating thread!
Just to add that Mohamed Din Peterson had black hair and dark brown eyes, but his skin colour was quite light. My partner remembers him as a quite tall, very thin man.
This (tall, thin) fits in well with the 1940 passenger list I quoted at reply #1 above, in which he was said to be 5ft 11in and 65 kilos.
I just wish we could find Gulam Mohamed and/or Mohammddin/John Peterson arriving from India...
Anna
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Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)
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sgrollitt
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UPDATE
John Peterson was born on 16 April 1894. He was christened on 23 November 1922 at Anfield, Lancashire aged 28. His father was Gulam Peterson and his mother was Susie.
So John (Mohamddin) was probably born in India, came over to England with his parents at a young age, became known as John and converted in 1922. His father might have converted at the same time as assumed the name Peterson too.
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avm228
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Congratulations - that's a great find!
Is there any evidence that Gulam/Susie were ever in England? Who were the witnesses to the Dec 1922 marriage?
Anna
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Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)
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sgrollitt
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Witnesses at the 1922 marriage were Edwin John Taylor and Sarah Ludwidge or Ledridge.
Are one or more of the parents normally witnesses? Do you think this means that Gulam and Susie were not in England?
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avm228
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No, the fact that the parents weren't witnesses doesn't tell you by any means that they weren't in England (but had they been witnesses it would have been proof that they were).
This Nov 1922 baptism comes shortly before a Dec 1922 marriage, so I wonder whether he was baptised in contemplation of a forthcoming church wedding.
It seems to me possible that Mohammddin/John made his own way to England as a young man, rather then being brought here by his parents. Regrettably I still can't find any of them in inbound passenger lists! I wonder whether in fact he first arrived as crew on a ship rather than as a passenger.
The 1911 census sighting of a 15 yr old John Peterson worries me a bit, in that the lad says he was born in Liverpool, not India. And Mohammdin/John would have been 16 and very nearly 17 on the date of the 1911 census (2 April 1911). John Peterson is a sufficiently common name that I'd be cautious about taking this as a firm match.
Incidentally, there is a short report on the wrecking of the Sea Rambler in The Times, 26 March 1940.
Anna 
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Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)
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sgrollitt
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I've been struggling in vain to find anything more about Mohamddin's parents Gulam Mohamed and Susie Peterson. The church in Anfield where Mohamddin (aka John) Peterson was christened aged 28 in November 1922 was probably St Margarets, since that's where he married a month later to Margaret McLachlan.
Are there any records still existing in Liverpool for St Margarets?
I'm guessing that Mohamddin Peterson died sometime between 1965 and 1985 in Liverpool as John Peterson.
I'm also guessing that his parents were also in Liverpool and that they (probably named Gulam Peterson and Susie Peterson) died there between 1935 and 1960. They could have been living in Upper Canning Street in 1940.
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sgrollitt
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That's a smashing find! Why didn't I think of it. Thank you.
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cmail
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i was most interested in reading about mohamddin peterson.As i was born at 90 upper canning st.1 lived there till 1953 i was 8 yrs when i left.but i remember mr peterson.If its the same one he lived there with his wife&3sons. one was called tommy. i also knew after they left canning street they moved to a street of lodge lane lpool hope this helps
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sgrollitt
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Oh my goodness! What a lovely post to read.
Mohameddin (aka John) and his wife Margaret had:
- Robert in 1927 (married in 1951)
- Samuel in 1930 (known as Sammy and never married)
- Joseph in 1932 (known as Joey)
- Thomas in 1939 (known as Tommy)
Do you remember him as Mr Peterson or Mo or John?
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cmail
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hi again im really glad that this is the same mr peterson. i never new him by anything else but mr peterson.Tommy was a good friend of my brother eddie francis.i remember when they moved my mum took me to there house.Tommy was married by then.i would love to know what happened to everyone.
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sgrollitt
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Sammy died in 2008. I will try to find out a bit more about Joey and Tommy.
You mentioned that your mum took you to their new house off Lodge Lane. What year would that have been and were Mr and Mrs Peterson still alive?
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cmail
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i was sorry to hear about sammy.you ask about the date i used to visit m&mrs peterson it must have been about 1966 or there abouts and they were alive then
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Ruskie
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sgrollitt,
I have been reading this post but can't remember if anyone has checked the phone books for addresses for the Petersons, or when they were no longer listed so you can narrow down date of death?
Perhaps look for obituaries as well. Sorry if this has already been done or suggested earlier in this thread.
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