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avm228
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Re: gow
« Reply #1 on: Friday 19 June 09 09:51 UTC (UK) » |
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Hello and welcome 
What country (and, if relevant, county) are we talking about here?
Anna
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Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)
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pearldawn
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Re: gow
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 21 June 09 01:47 UTC (UK) » |
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i would also like to find the date this John was born if possible, spent a lot of time looking , but not success as yet. i guess if i find the marriage date it might be easier.
the john gow that married margaret cruickshank,well their first child was born 1775 children john, margaret, james, william, alexander and robert.all born dallas ,moray, scotland.
while i am here ,i think this is a great place to be looking at with heaps of information to be found, i appreciate the time the people have put into this site.and to the helpers that come up with our answers thanks.
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Gow, Bain, Cruickshank/Crookshank of elgin moray
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KirstyG
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Re: gow
« Reply #8 on: Friday 14 August 09 23:20 UTC (UK) » |
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I would suggest looking for a headstone here:
http://www.mbgrg.org/ancestor_intro.shtml
I've had a quick look and didn't see anything obvious, but you might find it useful in the future.
Kirsty
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Galloway, Landers, Lindsay, Gillespie, Irvine
Erskine, McAdam, Hawthorn
Robertson, Duncan, Edmonstone, Black
Anderson, Nicholson, Crombie, MacDonald
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Forfarian
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Re: gow
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 20 August 09 20:56 UTC (UK) » |
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looking for where i might find the date john gow married margaret cruickshank details of first child is moray dallas . born 1775. managed to find children john, margaret, james,william and alexander on the lds website.have looked at libndx system.maybe some suggestions please.
I have a note that I have seen a handwritten suggestion, probably in the manuscript books compiled by Mr Young of Dallas and held in Moray Local Heritage Centre, that the Margaret Cruickshank who married John Gow [b]may[b] have been the daughter of John Cruickshank and Jean Watson, baptised 1 February 1754 in Dallas.
I don't think it helps in this case, but the name Gow is an anglicisation of the Gaelic 'Gobha', meaning 'smith', and it isn't unusual to find the same individual listed with both surnames. So if you mislay a Gow, it's worth checking Smith, and vice versa. I have this particular family listed as 'Smith or Gow' in my Cruickshank file.
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AITKENHEAD, Lanarkshire; BINNY, Forfar; BLACK, New Monkland; BRYSON, Cumbernauld; BURGESS, North-East Scotland; CRUICKSHANK, Rothes; DALLAS, Botriphnie; DAVIDSON, Oyne; HOGG, Larbert; LESLIE, Rothes; LESLIE, Mortlach; MENDUM, England; PATERSON, Larbert; RHIND, Forfar; SANG, Scotland; SCOTT, East Kilbride; STOREY, New Monkland; THORNTON, Shotts; WADDELL, New Monkland; WILKIE, New Monkland; WILKIE, Tannadice; WYLLIE, Lethnot and Navar; YOUNG, Keith
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pearldawn
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Re: gow
« Reply #11 on: Friday 21 August 09 02:34 UTC (UK) » |
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thanks for that information Forfarian,
i been wondering if i shouild be looking at elgin not dallas,maybe they moved from elgin to Dallas where the children were born.
.looking at Libinex site and i see robert gow and marget jean ,further research lds i see they have a john b dec 1749 ,that would make him 26 when married.but havnt made the connection..robert and jean have john, margaret,william,robert elspet.all similar names in family.
would elspet be named elizabeth today,like is that same name different spelling? i need to have a look at the smith as you have suggested,i am truly at a lost end . thanks for replying .
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Gow, Bain, Cruickshank/Crookshank of elgin moray
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Forfarian
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Re: gow
« Reply #12 on: Friday 21 August 09 07:39 UTC (UK) » |
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i been wondering if i shouild be looking at elgin not dallas,maybe they moved from elgin to Dallas where the children were born. That's a possibility
.looking at Libinex site and i see robert gow and marget jean ,further research lds i see they have a john b dec 1749 ,that would make him 26 when married.but havnt made the connection..robert and jean have john, margaret,william,robert elspet.all similar names in family. Again, it's possible, but just because these are the only candidates is along way from meaning that they are the right ones. The further back you go, the more likely it is that the piece of information you want is missing from the records.
The names Alexander, James, John, William, Ann/e, Elizabeth, Isabella, Jane/Jean and Margaret are so common that they are really not much use for establishing family connections.
So you need to get more evidence to link the son of Robert Gow and the husband of Margaret Cruickshank. If recorded, the witnesses to the baptisms of John Gow and Margaret Cruickshank's daughters might be enlightening. The later Dallas registers usually record the witnesses' names but I have not yet looked at any baptisms there in the 1770s or 1780s.
Bear in mind also that neither the LDS nor LIBINDX are primary sources. They are both indexes and absolutely fantastic finding aids, but neither should be taken as definitive - always make sure to check the original records, for two reasons. First, there might be more detail in the original document than is contained in the index entry and second, the person who indexed the original information may have misread or mistranscribed something.
would elspet be named elizabeth today,like is that same name different spelling? Not exactly. Elspet/h is originally the same as Elizabeth (and so is Isabella) but although I have seen cases of someone using any two of these three names during their lifetime, I have more often seen families with both an Elizabeth and an Elspet/Elsie, and occasionally with an Isabella as well, suggesting that people saw Elspet/h as a different name. It's not safe to assume anything from the name Elspet/h in this case.
(Digression: Betty/Betsy is a common abbreviation or pet name for Elizabeth. It's also used for Beatrix/ce. By a sort of reverse engineering you occasionally get someone referred to as both Beatrix/ce and Elizabeth at different times. That one really threw me the first time I came across it. Then there is also Beth, which sometimes develops into Bathia/Bethia/Bethea, which is used as a separate name ..... See www.whatsinaname.net for more information.)
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AITKENHEAD, Lanarkshire; BINNY, Forfar; BLACK, New Monkland; BRYSON, Cumbernauld; BURGESS, North-East Scotland; CRUICKSHANK, Rothes; DALLAS, Botriphnie; DAVIDSON, Oyne; HOGG, Larbert; LESLIE, Rothes; LESLIE, Mortlach; MENDUM, England; PATERSON, Larbert; RHIND, Forfar; SANG, Scotland; SCOTT, East Kilbride; STOREY, New Monkland; THORNTON, Shotts; WADDELL, New Monkland; WILKIE, New Monkland; WILKIE, Tannadice; WYLLIE, Lethnot and Navar; YOUNG, Keith
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