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Thomas Imrie
« on: Saturday 20 June 09 16:23 UTC (UK) »
Hi,
I am researching a Gibson family from Tarbolton, Ayrshire and I wondered if anyone can help me in trying to find Thomas Imrie who was the father of George James Imrie born abt 1807. I know that George died on 15 sep 1875 in Crossmichael and that he was married to Janet Bell from Cummertrees. George's daughter Rachel Imrie married James Gibson and his granddaughter Janet Imrie married their son James.

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Ayrshire: Gibson, Imrie, Rainey
Fife: Gibson, Pitbladdo
Lancaster and Dent: Brown
Hereford and New Tredegar: Prosser, Napper
Liverpool: Brown, Gibson
Glasgow: Brown, Gibson
York and Ashton under Lyne: Gilboy,Gilbey,Gargan
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Re: Thomas Imrie
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 21 June 09 09:50 UTC (UK) »
birth cummertrees   rachel daughter of george imrie and janet bell 14th june 1830    csc
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Re: Thomas Imrie
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 21 June 09 11:36 UTC (UK) »
marriage tarbolton   james gibson and rachel imrie both in this parish  gave in their names for proclamation of banns in order to marriage 21st june 1851 and were married 4th july following by david    looks like ritchie minister of tarbolton   csc
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Re: Thomas Imrie
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 21 June 09 20:12 UTC (UK) »
Have looked at Dumfries and Kirkcudbright as suggested. Really good info. I have managed to trace the Imrie connection from my grandfather Thomas Imrie Gibson back to George Imrie and Janet Bell via Rachel and James and Janet and James. I have Janets parents as Janet Hethrington and George Bell but the only thing I have for George James is that his father was Thomas Imrie, Nurseryman which I obtained from George's death record. There was no mention of George's mother on the record. Any suggestion on how I can find Thomas and whoever was george's mother??
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Ayrshire: Gibson, Imrie, Rainey
Fife: Gibson, Pitbladdo
Lancaster and Dent: Brown
Hereford and New Tredegar: Prosser, Napper
Liverpool: Brown, Gibson
Glasgow: Brown, Gibson
York and Ashton under Lyne: Gilboy,Gilbey,Gargan
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Re: Thomas Imrie
« Reply #4 on: Monday 22 June 09 10:24 UTC (UK) »
it says on the census,s he is born thornhill on one dunscore on another and islington dumfriesshie which i have never heard of there are a lot of imries here the connection between him and janet has to be timber her dad george is a joiner/millwright brother charles and richard joiner sawyer millwright also benjamin is a millwright  george imrie is a timber merchant  in the 1841 census he is called george imrie jnr this family have a habit of adding names that are not on their birth papers there are also imries in kirkmichael  mother is called margaret mcvitie i think we should have another look at the childrens names  one of them would surely be named after his mum  rachel is janets grannys name janets sisters are rachel ellen mary brothers benjamin george charles and richard  so that leaves the rest of the names george imrie has ended up a wealthy man we have downloaded his will i think these imries nurserymen in ayrshire will be related they also have american connections  if you look at another entry i have for janet kerr/john wilson she is janet imries neice my ggg granny mary kerrs sister    she also knows the dixon/dicksons i have been looking for they are the brothers of her sistermarys mother in law we are now finding more and more in kirkcudbrightshire  they were also in carlisle for a while george was born there and then reg in urr  will keep adding  csc
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Re: Thomas Imrie
« Reply #5 on: Monday 22 June 09 14:05 UTC (UK) »
Hi Christine,
I think that you are correct about the wood/timber connection as in the direct line from George James the occupation of timber/wood merchant keeps occurring, George Bell and relations involved with wood and the Gibson men mainly joiners etc . Also the american connection looks good because George's son Benjamin, born in Tarbolton then moved to Springfield Crossmichael, who was an architect/land surveyor married agnes wilkie in Ontario Canada 7 aug 1890, they lived in Castle Douglas 2 children being born there. It looks as if Benjamin was only in Canada a short time and may have been visiting relatives(Huh). I have not been able to find the imrie nurserymen/seedsmen in ayrshire yet but will keep looking as that looks like a good suggestion. Re the suggestion on george's mother's name you could be right and in addition to Rachel, Mary Ann and Janet he had another 2 daughters Margaret and Agnes Jane.
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Ayrshire: Gibson, Imrie, Rainey
Fife: Gibson, Pitbladdo
Lancaster and Dent: Brown
Hereford and New Tredegar: Prosser, Napper
Liverpool: Brown, Gibson
Glasgow: Brown, Gibson
York and Ashton under Lyne: Gilboy,Gilbey,Gargan
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Re: Thomas Imrie
« Reply #6 on: Monday 22 June 09 15:32 UTC (UK) »
Just to let you know that I have found some imrie seed merchants in ayrshire. Charles b 22 dec 1814 and Thomas b 27 oct 1816 both in ayr both nurserymen and seed merchants father Thomas imrie who may have been b 1784 at kirkmichael dumries, son of charles imrie and janet russel. this last part not yet completely sure of yet. Charles and Thomas also had a brother john b 1813 in ayr. 
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Ayrshire: Gibson, Imrie, Rainey
Fife: Gibson, Pitbladdo
Lancaster and Dent: Brown
Hereford and New Tredegar: Prosser, Napper
Liverpool: Brown, Gibson
Glasgow: Brown, Gibson
York and Ashton under Lyne: Gilboy,Gilbey,Gargan
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Re: Thomas Imrie
« Reply #7 on: Monday 22 June 09 17:04 UTC (UK) »
janets 2 sisters well documented on internet  ellen bell/smith rachel bell /mclean lambton county ontario  christeen
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Re: Thomas Imrie
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 23 June 09 05:44 UTC (UK) »
15th june 1806  janet daughter to geo bell annd janet hetherton stonebriggs baptized 15th june rachel natural daughter to george ball and janet hetherton baptized 3rd march 1799 in footmansbridge   benjamin sonof george bell and janet hetherington stonebriggs baptized 1st july 1804 charles son to george bell and janet hetheriinton in flosh born ooctober 21st 1818 george son to george bell and janet hetherinton in flosh born born july 3rd 1813 we have never found ellens or marys birth i wll come to richard later as his is different there are possibly more the records are quite bad  christeen
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Re: Thomas Imrie
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 23 June 09 06:35 UTC (UK) »
1815  ritchard son to george bell and anna heitherinton in larthat born october 2nd 1815 richard and janet are a close brother and sister he married agnes henderson in ayr 10/7 1840 he is a sawyer  christeen
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Re: Thomas Imrie
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 23 June 09 08:07 UTC (UK) »
I really appreciate all this information. Janet and george seem to have maintained a really close family. census 1871,apart from them, there were 12 family members staying at Springfield,Crossmichael including 4 grandchildren and a brother-in-law,Richard Bell. This Richard is age 55 born in Antowell Dumfries, occupation late Hotel Keeper. In 1861 Janet and George were living in Tarbolton ayrshire and had a visitor Edward Davidson born abt 1835 in Ruthwell Dumfries. There is always the chance that he is also connected by family.
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Ayrshire: Gibson, Imrie, Rainey
Fife: Gibson, Pitbladdo
Lancaster and Dent: Brown
Hereford and New Tredegar: Prosser, Napper
Liverpool: Brown, Gibson
Glasgow: Brown, Gibson
York and Ashton under Lyne: Gilboy,Gilbey,Gargan
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Re: Thomas Imrie
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 23 June 09 08:15 UTC (UK) »
this is our edward son of our mary kerr before she married francis  janets nephew he died 1861 at her house  he is buried cummertrees with his fathers davidson family if you look at my janet kerr she has named  1 of her children after him he is her half brother this is richard her brother at her house after his wifes death he ended up committing suicide by cutting his own throat  at kells new galloway janet kerr and her aunt janet imrie have been very caring women taking care of everybody  christeen
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Re: Thomas Imrie
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 23 June 09 09:27 UTC (UK) »
death cummertrees may 4th 1860   george bell millwright widower charlesfield 83 years father benjamim bell agricultural labourer  rachel bell maiden name mcgowan dec.decay of nature churchyard of cummertrees richard bell son present    janet has to have died between 1818 and 1841   george is at larthat with son charles in 1841 i have been to cummertrees looking for this grave did not find but there is a hetherton grave there i was wondering about  christeen
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Re: Thomas Imrie
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 24 June 09 07:31 UTC (UK) »
do you know if rachel has any middle names on her death cert or what her childrens full names are some will likely be from her side and some from her husbands  have found a few imries  but not exactly what we are looking for  christeen
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Re: Thomas Imrie
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 24 June 09 08:26 UTC (UK) »
Rachel had no middle name. Died 18 May 1899 Failford,Tarbolton. Children all surname gibson William Davidson b1/3/1851,Alexander b10/2/1853,George James b abt 1856,Janet Bell b2/4/1858,James b25/6/1860, Margaret b30/12/1862, Thomas Imrie b17/9/1865,Mary Ann b21/9/1867, Agnes Jane b8/4/1870, Rachel H b1874 (believe the H to be Helen but will try and confirm soonest).
William's middle name is interesting after you mentioning the connection that Edward Davidson (the visitor)has to the family.  James b1860 married Janet daughter of Rachel's sister Mary Ann Imrie 30/12/1887.
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Ayrshire: Gibson, Imrie, Rainey
Fife: Gibson, Pitbladdo
Lancaster and Dent: Brown
Hereford and New Tredegar: Prosser, Napper
Liverpool: Brown, Gibson
Glasgow: Brown, Gibson
York and Ashton under Lyne: Gilboy,Gilbey,Gargan
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