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eramophla
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baptisms - children of John & Margaret ROW
« on: Saturday 20 June 09 23:35 UTC (UK) »

I am trying to find the names of the children of a John Row (c1784) and Margaret Wallis Wallace (bap 6.11.1785) who were married on 13th May 1809 in St Just/Penwith, Cornwall. The couple and some children may have emigrated to the West Indies in later life as John died there in about 1836 and Margaret died in Reading, Pennsylvania in October 1856.

My 3x great grandfather John Rowe went to the West Indies for 2 years in approximately 1838-1839 - this could be around the time of death of the John Row above, so could possibly be a relation.

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Re: baptisms - children of John & Margaret ROW
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 21 June 09 11:02 UTC (UK) »

4 possibles in the IGI batch P020311 for St Just in Penwith with parents John & Margaret Row

John bp 4/9/1809
William bp 16/6/1811
Margaret Edwards bp 10/4/1814
Elizabeth bp 4/4/1817
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eramophla
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Re: baptisms - children of John & Margaret ROW
« Reply #2 on: Monday 22 June 09 08:11 UTC (UK) »

Thanks osprey. If you find anything else let me know.

Cheers,

Era
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Re: baptisms - children of John & Margaret ROW
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 28 June 09 11:32 UTC (UK) »

what sort of anything else are you looking for?

Margaret Wallis bp 6/11/1785 was the daighter of Robert & Margaret. Robert Wallis married Margaret Edwards 2/6/1782 IGI batch M020311 and had these other children baptised IGI batch P020311
Elizabeth 13/4/1783
Jane 1/1/1790
Honor 23/11/1794
Sarah 7/2/1796
Joanna 24/2/1799
Clarinda 6/3/1803

You can get copies of these parish entries from the record office in Truro
http://www.cornwall.gov.uk/default.aspx?page=14713
Likewise for the marriage in 1809. The witness names may help identify which John Row he was - not an uncommon name in that part of Cornwall.

The opc may be able to help
http://www.cornwall-opc.org/Par_new/h_k/just_in_penwith_st.php

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Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Kellett, Tebb
eramophla
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Re: baptisms - children of John & Margaret ROW
« Reply #4 on: Monday 29 June 09 08:12 UTC (UK) »

Thanks again osprey. I will investigate those links.

I was just wondering if there is any extra information on the children of the couple - ie marriage information, or whether they appear in later censuses.

Era.
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Re: baptisms - children of John & Margaret ROW
« Reply #5 on: Monday 29 June 09 10:28 UTC (UK) »

I did have a look for them later on, but with no luck. No sign of marriages in the parish for them or in the 1841 census as far as I remember. Also checked for wills and nothing that helped there either. Row(e) is a common name though and if they moved parish, harder to spot.

Copies of the Row baptisms might give John's occupation. Margaret's middle name would seem to confirm Robert & Margaret's marriage.

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Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Kellett, Tebb
eramophla
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Re: baptisms - children of John & Margaret ROW
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 30 June 09 08:03 UTC (UK) »

Thanks for your efforts osprey. I will try some further invesitgation and see how I go.

Cheers,

Era.
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Wiltshire- Young, Mills, Ingram, Hill, Lucas
Warwick- Pickering, Birch, Treadwell, Skinner
Devon- Teague, May, McIsaac, Underdown
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Re: baptisms - children of John & Margaret ROW
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 30 June 09 12:00 UTC (UK) »

Hi Era and Osprey,

I have found an immigration Record Travelling to NY 25 Aug 1829 aboard the St GEORGE from Liverpool

ROW John 40 Joiner from England
ROW William 17
ROW Margaret 15
ROW John Row Jr 19
ROW Margaret 45
ROW Elizabeth 13
ROW Robert 10
ROW Ann 4
ROW Jane 2

I have found a baptism for Robert but no luck with Ann and Jane

Robert ROWE baptised 19 May 1820 Redruth St Uny parents John and Margaret

There is an IGI submitted listing Jane, but no place of birth.

Cheers Kris  Smiley

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Re: baptisms - children of John & Margaret ROW
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 30 June 09 13:07 UTC (UK) »

well, that's a good explanation for them not being on the 1841 census.   

Think a copy of the parish entry for the marriage might be the next move to see if there are any Row relatives as witnesses and give a clue to John's parentage.

Wink

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Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
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Re: baptisms - children of John & Margaret ROW
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 30 June 09 20:28 UTC (UK) »

I had this on my mind when I went to bed last night and its still there when I woke up - I have been a bit concerned by Johns occupation "joiner" when from the OPC site Margaret and Elizabeth's baptisms list him as a miner of Carrarack. Just rechecking the image and to my eye it does say Joiner. William ditto, Young Margaret "none". The rest of the family the occ. column is blank. I just can't give it Miner. The family are listed in the order I transcribed. I have however found there is a second image where he is listed as miner (family listed in same order but split over two pages) William has ditto to his father, Young Margaret comes next on the list and she has "none" the rest of the family have ditto. Grin

Cheers Kris  Smiley
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