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newbe_nz
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Access to Divorce File - **Completed with thanks**
« on: Sunday 21 June 09 00:57 UTC (UK) »

Hi there I am wonder if some one can help me.

I am having to write a letter to the Registrar in the Civil Secton of the High Court in Auckland to gain access to my late father and his first wife's divorce record. The marriage was dissolved on 27 July 1956.

I am wondering if some one can help me in writing what to say in the letter.

I know what one of the main reasons for the divorce was  but will not go into it on here. I know that after the divorce my step mother married my uncle.  Very complicated indeed.
What reasons should i give in order to gain acess.

Any help would be welcomed

Thanks

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Re: Access to Divorce File
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 21 June 09 05:19 UTC (UK) »

Hi Newbe
Not sure about 1956 but I obtained a very complete file for a 1937 divorce just by quoting Archway reference and stating that the wife named was my mother's half sister.
No other reason.
Took about two weeks to arrive.
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Re: Access to Divorce File
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 21 June 09 05:24 UTC (UK) »

Newbe, Don't give a reason unless you are asked specifically. If the file is available for public access there's no need.. and I always follow the rule that the least said to bureaucrats the better!

John B says he just made the request... why not do the same then take it from there?

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Re: Access to Divorce File
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 21 June 09 08:25 UTC (UK) »

Thanks to the both of you for your advice.

I shall just write the letter asking for access and see where it goes from there.

I have the reference from Auckland Archives as they emailed it to me.

If I had to wait for the 60 years rule I would be waiting until 2016/2017

Newbe

Ps: will let you know how I get on
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Re: Access to Divorce File
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 21 June 09 09:11 UTC (UK) »


 If the file is available for public access there's no need..

John B says he just made the request... why not do the same then take it from there?


Just to set the record straight here, Archives New Zealand's policy is that Divorce Files are restricted for a period of 60 years from the date of the decree absolute.

In order to gain access to a restricted Divorce File, application needs to be made through the NZ Courts. 

So a file dated 1956 ... is NOT at this time, available for public access.

[And the 1937 divorce file obtained (recently ?) by John, would of course have been free of the 60 year restriction. ]

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Re: Access to Divorce File
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 21 June 09 09:14 UTC (UK) »


Newbe

I have experience of the process of applying for access to restricted files  ...  I'm happy to give you some "pointers", should you require same.

Lu

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Re: Access to Divorce File
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 21 June 09 09:25 UTC (UK) »

Hi Lu,

Would love some pointers please.

The Decree Absolute date is as in my first post 27 July 1956.
As i said this is my late father and his first wife's divorce record that I would like to see.
My mother was his second wife and that too ended in divorce.

Thanks
Newbe

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Re: Access to Divorce File
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 21 June 09 22:11 UTC (UK) »

Hi Newbe

[I'll get in touch with you via PM later today.]

Just in the meantime, can you advise, if Auckland Archives (when they responded to your email for the file number), gave any further information regarding the fact that the file was restricted and Court permission was needed for access. ??

Just curious.    (I seem to recall that I received some printed information regarding the application process.)

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Re: Access to Divorce File
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 21 June 09 22:38 UTC (UK) »

This is their reply

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I've carried out a quick check of our indexes for you; the Divorce number for Arthur Roland and Elsie Mary Patricia Smith is D655/55.
 
For written permission to have access to this record please write to the Registrar at the High Court Auckland.

Then they put address down below which I have not included here.

Yes both are deceased.

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Re: Access to Divorce File
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 21 June 09 22:39 UTC (UK) »

Thanks for your help with this Lu

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Re: Access to Divorce File
« Reply #10 on: Friday 07 August 09 20:42 UTC (UK) »

Hi Everyone,

I got my late father's divorce file in the post yeaterday from his first wife.

No names of children as they had none together but it does mention two children they had but never adopted.  The first was born in 1942 to a american soldier and died 1963 the other was born abt 1948/49 and is still living.

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Re: Access to Divorce File
« Reply #11 on: Friday 07 August 09 21:19 UTC (UK) »


That's good news Newbe.   Smiley

[Yes, it's a bit of lengthy process applying for these restricted files - and "jumping through all the hoops" required ... but no doubt, worthwhile in the end.]

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Re: Access to Divorce File
« Reply #12 on: Friday 07 August 09 21:24 UTC (UK) »

It was worth it alright Grin

Even had the marriage cert in it Cheesy

Now that is one I can cross of the list of restricted ones that I have not made up yet Smiley

Elsie went on to marry my Uncle Frank (died 1981) some time after the divorce in 1956. So some time after 27 July 1956. Might need to get that marriage printout to find out the date.

Extra work to get these restricted ones now but worth the work when I can do it.

Newbe
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