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cheekymole
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Where is St. Newlyn In Pyder ?
« on: Sunday 21 June 09 20:44 UTC (UK) »
I think it's probably in Shropshire/Salop but googling comes up with Cornwall but a slightly different spelling...
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heywood
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Re: Where is St. Newlyn In Pyder ?
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 21 June 09 20:52 UTC (UK) »
It does look as though it is Cornwall with the slightly different spelling. Nothing seems to show for Shropshire.

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~blanchec/Newlyn.htm
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Alexander, Suffolk and Lancashire; Ashworth,Whitworth, Grindrod Lancashire; Golden, Duffy County Mayo.
cheekymole
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Re: Where is St. Newlyn In Pyder ?
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 21 June 09 20:54 UTC (UK) »
Thankyou

Hmm back in the early 1800s that was a flippin long way from Salop!
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Re: Where is St. Newlyn In Pyder ?
« Reply #3 on: Monday 22 June 09 07:22 UTC (UK) »
there is a St Mawgan in Pyder could this have any connection.

hope this isnt out of turn as this is my first try
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cheekymole
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Re: Where is St. Newlyn In Pyder ?
« Reply #4 on: Monday 22 June 09 08:09 UTC (UK) »
Thanks for that and not out of turn at all but I'm looking for somewhere of this name in Shropshire as Cornwall was a very long way from Shropshire back then
Thank you x
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heywood
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Re: Where is St. Newlyn In Pyder ?
« Reply #5 on: Monday 22 June 09 09:36 UTC (UK) »
Hi again,
I don't know how far you are going back but amazingly people did manage to travel about.
Have you looked through towns and parishes in Shropshire?
Looking at GENUKI - there is a St Julian parish in Shrewsbury which could stretch to a poor version of St Newlyn but the 'in Pyder' is difficult to interpret for Shropshire as far as I can see.
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Alexander, Suffolk and Lancashire; Ashworth,Whitworth, Grindrod Lancashire; Golden, Duffy County Mayo.
cheekymole
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Re: Where is St. Newlyn In Pyder ?
« Reply #6 on: Monday 22 June 09 09:40 UTC (UK) »
thanks Heywood.

We are talking late 1700 early 1800 but I can't find any connection of St Newlyn in Pyder with Shropshire even though one Pallot (wife) states that was the area of marriage but the other (husband) states Great Ness which is where the family were at the time

Thank you
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heywood
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Re: Where is St. Newlyn In Pyder ?
« Reply #7 on: Monday 22 June 09 09:42 UTC (UK) »
I am just looking at your other post about the couple.

Family Search has the extracted marriage which you quote 19 June 1832 Great Ness.

Where have you seen the other reference?
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Alexander, Suffolk and Lancashire; Ashworth,Whitworth, Grindrod Lancashire; Golden, Duffy County Mayo.
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Re: Where is St. Newlyn In Pyder ?
« Reply #8 on: Monday 22 June 09 09:51 UTC (UK) »
The 1841 census shows both George and Elizabeth born in the county (Shropshire)  Huh
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Alexander, Suffolk and Lancashire; Ashworth,Whitworth, Grindrod Lancashire; Golden, Duffy County Mayo.
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Re: Where is St. Newlyn In Pyder ?
« Reply #9 on: Monday 22 June 09 09:56 UTC (UK) »
I hope this works

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=pallotm&h=955269&ti=5538&indiv=try&gss=pt
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heywood
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Re: Where is St. Newlyn In Pyder ?
« Reply #10 on: Monday 22 June 09 09:59 UTC (UK) »
sorry- no it doesn't. My membership isn't that comprehensive.

I am hoping that this is Elizabeth in 1851
HO107; Piece: 1991; Folio: 260; Page: 13

which shows her born Great Ness which fits in with the marriage details on Family Search.
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Alexander, Suffolk and Lancashire; Ashworth,Whitworth, Grindrod Lancashire; Golden, Duffy County Mayo.
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Re: Where is St. Newlyn In Pyder ?
« Reply #11 on: Monday 22 June 09 10:01 UTC (UK) »

Name:    Elizth Lewis
Spouse:    George Weston
Marriage Date:    1832
Parish:    St. Newlyn In Pyder

but the original image shows Great Ness Huh
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Re: Where is St. Newlyn In Pyder ?
« Reply #12 on: Monday 22 June 09 10:05 UTC (UK) »
Quote from: heywood on Monday 22 June 09 09:59 UTC (UK)
sorry- no it doesn't. My membership isn't that comprehensive.

I am hoping that this is Elizabeth in 1851
HO107; Piece: 1991; Folio: 260; Page: 13

which shows her born Great Ness which fits in with the marriage details on Family Search.


how do I look that up please? Is she living with Emma in Uffington? that's where I have her
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heywood
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Re: Where is St. Newlyn In Pyder ?
« Reply #13 on: Monday 22 June 09 10:05 UTC (UK) »
Well I would speculate that it is an error - transcription or something.

The evidence from other sources supports Great Ness and I would try to follow from there if I were you.
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Alexander, Suffolk and Lancashire; Ashworth,Whitworth, Grindrod Lancashire; Golden, Duffy County Mayo.
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Re: Where is St. Newlyn In Pyder ?
« Reply #14 on: Monday 22 June 09 10:10 UTC (UK) »
Does your membership include UK census?  My membership is UK only so not sure - I know that worldwide did used to include UK.

I did it by looking for Weston born Great Ness- just to see.

You can go to 1851 census and look for Elizabeth Weston born 1807 Great Ness and she comes up.

Ancestry has become very difficult at times. If you go to 1851 census and enter Elizabeth Weston and click - you get the various UK country censuses.
Then go to England and enter the reference I gave you - you will see the place to do so at the bottom of the search page and it should work.  Wink
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Alexander, Suffolk and Lancashire; Ashworth,Whitworth, Grindrod Lancashire; Golden, Duffy County Mayo.
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